Alexis Sanchez (Out)

[Sammy1887]

The whole PSG talk could be a ploy for the club (PSG) to expedite the deal with Neymar and his camp.

 

[Mudi]

If true thats low imo I wouldnt have thought Sanchez would force a move. Is that why AW keeps saying he won't sell, to try to punish him?

No, they all (AW and the board) want us to believe that Sanchez is the bad guy here:
"We wanted him to stay here but he seemed to give us no option than to sell. He didn't want to be here anymore so we did what was the best for the player and the team. We have enough qualities (read Welbeck, Walcott, Ox, Iwobi, ...) who can replace Sanchez and if we find the right replacement (read no-one), we will def. enforce the team."

To be honest, I saw this coming before there were any links to PSG. People were saying that times changed and that this case was different...

 

[bingobob]

What's been a good window will become a dreadful window if Alexis leaves. The club will literally have to pull out every stop to make it acceptable.

Griezmann/ Belotti / another forward
Lemar
Van Dijk
Wanyama / Matic / Rabiot / another holding midfielder

I don't think we have it in us to deliver what I feel we need and that's a new spine. Heck all but another forward is needed without Alexis leaving.

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

Not true. Better off adding Mahrez to Alexis and going for it. Might as well. Getting the Champions league money and challenging for the EPL title will make up for a good portion of the money we'd get for Alexis alone.

Empirical fact, actually.

Champions League is worth ~5oMM per year to us (if we exit around R16 per usual) -- A 50 percentage point (that is, say, from 25% to 75%) increase in likelihood of qualification is thus 'only' worth ~25MM, and there's no way Alexis represents that large a bump on his own, anyways. The difference between 6th and 1st place EPL money is only 10MM, so his economic effect there is negligible.

Furthermore, given the time value of money (A dollar now is worth more than a dollar later -- with salary due on average in 6 months, transfer fee [would be] received this year as well, CL money not for another 12 months), there's basically no way he could bridge the gap on his own. He would have to, with 100% certainty, take us from Champions League longshots (which we're not), to QF at minimum, and from 6/7 place (which we may be) to league champs.

Not saying it's best for the club in the long term, or that I'd like him to be sold, but the sell-now math definitely adds up.

 

[Mudi]

What's been a good window will become a dreadful window if Alexis leaves. The club will literally have to pull out every stop to make it acceptable.

Griezmann/ Belotti / another forward
Lemar
Van Dijk
Wanyama / Matic / Rabiot / another holding midfielder

I don't think we have it in us to deliver what I feel we need and that's a new spine. Heck all but another forward is needed without Alexis leaving.

No thank you, rather play Coquelin then!

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

What's been a good window will become a dreadful window if Alexis leaves. The club will literally have to pull out every stop to make it acceptable.

Griezmann/ Belotti / another forward
Lemar
Van Dijk
Wanyama / Matic / Rabiot / another holding midfielder

I don't think we have it in us to deliver what I feel we need and that's a new spine. Heck all but another forward is needed without Alexis leaving.

No chance we get Griezz, he's not leaving until next summer, and only to United if he does. Belotti is unproven, too expensive, and probably headed Milan.

Lemar, I think, is not yet even money, but there's a chance.

Van Dijik, no chance we spend that much on a defender after Mustafi outlay.

Wanyama, sure, but not a clear upgrade, probably surplus, and would Sp**s sell? No way we outbid United for Matic (if Chelsea lets him leave, which I doubt). And Rabiot isn't going to be allowed to leave PSG, nor would he want to.

 

[bingobob]

No thank you, rather play Coquelin then!

You need your head examined. Best holder in the league.

 

[hyruga2]

Sanchez spotted in Paris with PSG football director

 

[samshere]

Empirical fact, actually.

Champions League is worth ~5oMM per year to us (if we exit around R16 per usual) -- A 50 percentage point (that is, say, from 25% to 75%) increase in likelihood of qualification is thus 'only' worth ~25MM, and there's no way Alexis represents that large a bump on his own, anyways. The difference between 6th and 1st place EPL money is only 10MM, so his economic effect there is negligible.

Furthermore, given the time value of money (A dollar now is worth more than a dollar later -- with salary due on average in 6 months, transfer fee [would be] received this year as well, CL money not for another 12 months), there's basically no way he could bridge the gap on his own. He would have to, with 100% certainty, take us from Champions League longshots (which we're not), to QF at minimum, and from 6/7 place (which we may be) to league champs.

Not saying it's best for the club in the long term, or that I'd like him to be sold, but the sell-now math definitely adds up.

Lol, time value of money. Bank of England interest rates are at 0.25%

 

[Don D]

 

[bingobob]

No chance we get Griezz, he's not leaving until next summer, and only to United if he does. Belotti is unproven, too expensive, and probably headed Milan.

Lemar, I think, is not yet even money, but there's a chance.

Van Dijik, no chance we spend that much on a defender after Mustafi outlay.

Wanyama, sure, but not a clear upgrade, probably surplus, and would Sp**s sell? No way we outbid United for Matic (if Chelsea lets him leave, which I doubt). And Rabiot isn't going to be allowed to leave PSG, nor would he want to.

If Alexis leaves then we need to do the necessary. Previous fees are largely irrelevant as this summer has seen an explosion in fees. Van Dijk should be a priority if Alexis leaves. We may score less so we need to make sure we concede less.

The forwards and midfielder can really be anyone those listed would be my preference. I'm sure we can look at others. Benzema, Aubameyang, Werner, Dembele etc.

 

[Don D]

If Alexis leaves then we need to do the necessary. Previous fees are largely irrelevant as this summer has seen an explosion in fees. Van Dijk should be a priority if Alexis leaves. We may score less so we need to make sure we concede less.

The forwards and midfielder can really be anyone those listed would be my preference. I'm sure we can look at others. Benzema, Aubameyang, Werner, Dembele etc.

We need another striker?

 

[Highbury_2006]

Sanchez spotted in Paris with PSG football director

Source?

 

[HairSprayGooners]

If Alexis leaves then we need to do the necessary. Previous fees are largely irrelevant as this summer has seen an explosion in fees. Van Dijk should be a priority if Alexis leaves. We may score less so we need to make sure we concede less.

The forwards and midfielder can really be anyone those listed would be my preference. I'm sure we can look at others. Benzema, Aubameyang, Werner, Dembele etc.

Yesterday your argument was to keep Giroud as we desperately need his goal contribution. Today your argument is to buy another striker.

We need a left sided forward or a goalscoring winger if Alexis leaves.

 

[Gunnerz4life4ever]

35m plus Rabiot from PSG wouldnt be so bad, then use said fee to buy Mahrez :bounce:

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

Lol, time value of money. Bank of England interest rates are at 0.25%

Arsenal doesn't stick their transfer intake in a chequing account. And if it isn't directly invested, it's used in lieu of money that would otherwise be borrowed a much higher rate than what you've quoted.

Discounting cashflows doesn't mean much when your cousin takes a few extra months to pay you back the couple hundred he owes you, but it's absolutely a factor for the #s related to Alexis.

 

[bingobob]

We need another striker?

If Alexis leaves then absolutely. He was our top goal scorer last season predominantly played as a striker. You need someone to replace that. Lacazette was brought in to replace Giroud / Walcott / Perez he cannot shoulder Alexis' as well, further to the fact he could be a dud and then we are royally ****ed (one of the reasons if Alexis does depart then Giroud must stay)

So yeah a forward is a must. Someone who can play in the two but also the one. Something I'm not ordinarily keen on either. I prefer positional specialists but given Alexis is unorthodox then we need another player like that or accept that Lacazette may cover in the two and buy an out and out striker like Benzema, Dembele etc.

 

[bingobob]

Yesterday your argument was to keep Giroud as we desperately need his goal contribution. Today your argument is to buy another striker.

We need a left sided forward or a goalscoring winger if Alexis leaves.

We still need Giroud oddly enough as I said below, now above. Keeping Giroud is an absolute must simply because he is proven in the league as a goal scorer. That doesn't mean that we don't bring in another player to try and replace what Alexis brings. Both IMO are absolutely essential to any Alexis departure.

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

If Alexis leaves then we need to do the necessary. Previous fees are largely irrelevant as this summer has seen an explosion in fees. Van Dijk should be a priority if Alexis leaves. We may score less so we need to make sure we concede less.

The forwards and midfielder can really be anyone those listed would be my preference. I'm sure we can look at others. Benzema, Aubameyang, Werner, Dembele etc.

Agreed that previous fees can be heavily discounted, but I still don't think we can compete with the clubs who are in on most of the players you've listed, however.

Would have loved to have seen Auba in a Gunners kit, though.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

We still need Giroud oddly enough as I said below, now above. Keeping Giroud is an absolute must simply because he is proven in the league as a goal scorer. That doesn't mean that we don't bring in another player to try and replace what Alexis brings. Both IMO are absolutely essential to any Alexis departure.

You just said that Lacazette was brought in to replace Giroud? I don't understand your thinking.

If we buy another striker for example Belotti for £60m then one 50m+ striker will be on the bench with Giroud.

Oh and not forgetting Welbeck. And the fact that Welbeck would be our only left sided attacker in the squad.

If we sell Alexis and bring in a striker our only 'wingers' in the squad will be Walcott, Iwobi and Welbeck and then the kids after that.

It doesnt make sense to sell Alexis and buy a striker mate.