Stevo the Villan
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It's an achievement.
However its a million miles short of making him a quality manager.
However its a million miles short of making him a quality manager.
Alfonso said:Pulis is a much better manager imo. To keep Stoke in the league last year was some acheivement.
Stevo the Villan said:I wouldn't have done anything. I'm not apremiership manager. If I was manager I'm sure I'd be the worst manager ever.
But other managers find tactics that work. Bottom line. Mowbray didn't. He won the CHampionship, won it.And then was by FAR the worst of the promoted teams. Why? because everyone else played the football necessary to stay in the league. It's not pretty but its a necessity to get a promoted team as a regular in the league.
If playing nice football makes you a good managerthen so be it. I'll surrender that yes, if that is the criteria then Mowbray is a good manager. Very good in fact.
However, my criteria is results. At West Brom he did well in the championship and poor in the prem. In Scotland he made Celtic worse. He dismantled the team, added his new players, and they're considerably worse than when he started.
Results>style of play.
If you offered me 10 points less a season but lovely football, I wouldn't take it.
No it's not, you're missing the point, the idea is you play the kind of football that gets you results, good, bad or whatever and that a manager can't be labeled quality just for playing good football.Kain said:Stevo the Villan said:I wouldn't have done anything. I'm not apremiership manager. If I was manager I'm sure I'd be the worst manager ever.
But other managers find tactics that work. Bottom line. Mowbray didn't. He won the CHampionship, won it.And then was by FAR the worst of the promoted teams. Why? because everyone else played the football necessary to stay in the league. It's not pretty but its a necessity to get a promoted team as a regular in the league.
You did read my above post, the idea that is being portrayed by you and others is that you need to play s**t football to survive in the league it's not true, there are more teams in the premier league right now who actually play (rather than throw the ball into the net and stick six foot five neanderthals on the pitch and get the rub of the green from the ref for being 'to slow' to tackle) then adjust their styles totally which is a ridiculous concept.
regele said:No it's not, you're missing the point, the idea is you play the kind of football that gets you results, good, bad or whatever and that a manager can't be labeled quality just for playing good football.
This guy and David Wagner are the same person.
@bingobob what do you think?
@bingobob what do you think?
Not for me. I'm unfortunately pro Rodgers or Moyes.
@bingobob what do you think?