Yes, I think getting the first team cameo v Reading did his confidence a lot of good. He's starting to look penetrative again like he did at the end of last season. Great finish aswell - he needs to have end product.
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Any idea what happened with Ovie Ejaria? Was with us since the age of 11 then left to join LFC. Can't see why we'd let him go, he looks an incredible talent.
Any idea what happened with Ovie Ejaria? Was with us since the age of 11 then left to join LFC. Can't see why we'd let him go, he looks an incredible talent.
BobP
Memri Fan
You think so?
I watched him in the Carling Cup and he looked meh to say the least.
Furthermore, CM is probably the most difficult position to breakthrough in.
Liverpool also have a tendency of hyping up their talents, best to ignore them.
Yeah man, I've seen him a few times. He was a standout player for England U20 in the four nations tournament too. Good frame and has composure you can't really teach.
Agree 'Pool hype up their youngsters beyond belief, but in Sheyi Ojo, Ovie Ejaria and Ben Woodburn they've three legitimate reasons to be excited. Apparently Barca are looking at Woodburn.
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Have Barca ever signed a England based player that they have been said to be interested in?
They were once believed to be after Aneke and Afobe.
Technically we didnt let him go. He refused to sign a scholarship and left of his own accord. He most likely thought he stood a better chance of breaking through at Liverpool.
Ian Carlo Poveda was also at our academy for a short while. He then left for Barcas academy, then went to Brentford before ending up at Man Citys academy at the start of this season.
Brentford to Man City? Poor kid, his career went downhill quickly.
Yeah, Mutable just confirmed what I thought- Ian Poveda left us to join Barca. Apparently they were/are looking at our Omari Hutchinson and Man Utd's Angel Gomes. Joan Angel Roman is a player who left Man City's academy for Barca too.
Ahhh I thought as much. It's always frustrating for me to see a talented youngster leave us and flourish elsewhere. But if he wanted to leave we can't point the finger at anyone at Arsenal.
City's academy is full of talent right now. Poveda, Sancho and Diaz are probably the biggest talents there, along with Pat Roberts. They all stand decent chance of making it under the current regime, if Pep's legacy lasts there. It will be as big a disappointment as Chelsea if none of those players make a breakthrough.
It is true. Same with Gnabry. He saw an opportunity for regular football and got out while he had 1 year on the deal and all the bargaining power. I'm sure Wenger did not want to let him go. Gnabry right now probably feels very vindicated by his decision too.
I think for us, in the case of Ejaria, he left the same time that Zelalem came in. Maitland-Niles also made his shift from central midfield and some time later we also signed Ben Sheaf from West Ham's academy. Since then, Josh DaSilva has been earmarked, as has McGuane, Kelechi Nwakali has also been signed in that time.......Ejaria is very good but a hotly contested position like CM and he would likely have been fighting for gametime even at youth level. He made the right choice for his development and now looks to be on the cusp of one of the more exciting teams in the PL currently.
I would be more worried if we let talent like Nelson, Coyle or Joe Willock go. We also did well to keep Chris Willock because a lot of teams are interested in him. Man United still want to sign him apparently, especially given Matty Willock plays there. So far, we're on the cusp of a good era with our academy so we need to keep a lot of them together, especially the ones who are Hale End.
I was only joking about Man C being ****e... 
Our under 23's beat Tottenham 2-0 today, Mavididi and... DEBUCHY with the goals.
Seems he was injured rather than just being exiled. I don't think it's Wenger's style to isolate someone, he'd rather just sell them all together.
Seems he was injured rather than just being exiled. I don't think it's Wenger's style to isolate someone, he'd rather just sell them all together.
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Good news! Seems like u-23 are adjusting playing in more difficult league. They have been doing ok but lacking in results. Hopefully it is all coming together because we have very strong individuals!
Debuchy scoring! Was a good finish too tbf.https://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/...son-impresses-as-arsenal-u23s-beat-tottenham/
Reading the report from Jeorge Bird. Reiss Nelson is at it again. Bird says he is "so often, the standout player for Arsenal at this level". Also happens to be the youngest (technically, Smith-Rowe is, as he made his U23 debut this year and he is a bit younger - but he's an U18s regular).
Still not 17 till next month. As young as he is, he should probably be even closer to the first team than he is currently.
I have to be honest - the youth coverage is pathetic. We are fortunate that Jeorge Bird actually goes to games and tells people who actually played well. He waxed lyrical about Nelson but he doesn't even feature in the highlights, it's all Willock and Mavididi with the occasional shot of Sheaf and Zelalem.
Maybe I need to start going to some U23 games again
On the plus, Willock still looks dangerous. He needs a loan in January. Anymore time spent at this level and he will stagnate. I understand why Arsène kept them, especially with the jump in quality following the promotion, but guys like Maitland-Niles, Zelalem, Willock, Mavididi and even Nelson are totally bossing U23 football. They all need loans. Nelson turns pro in December, he becomes eligible for a loan. I don't really like the way the loan system works for our young players currently but for the aforementioned, they need more than U23 football is giving them right now.
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The loan system is tricky one. The loan needs to be perfectly picked otherwise it may do some damage to the players. Just look at Akpom and Gnabry for examples.
Anyway we will see probably some movement in this regard after Carling Cup is over.
We have Southampton next week. Chances are they'll get a few mins but I think that's a match Southampton will take seriously and we will probably lose that one. Then we should look at a decent short term loan. We have to go to teams who not only play similarly but have a need. Akpom went to Forest when they already had a young striker to develop - and he clearly didn't fit the style of play. Gnabry was similar but WBA did need a player of his ilk. That, and Gnabry wasn't completely fit.
An example of a good recent loan was Zelalem to Rangers. IMO he's come back much better and more combative. The quality of football wasn't challenging to him, but that wasn't why he went there. Rangers not only play decent football but the league was a highly physical one and he had to fight to impose himself. He's a better player for it.
Maitland-Niles went to a team that didn't suit him aswell but he still benefited somewhat - much of that down to his character I'd imagine. Wenger mentioned how settled he looks in a first team atmosphere and that he looks a man rather than a boy.
For me, a team like Bournemouth, where Wilshere is, is a good place to send some players. They're well stocked up front with Wilson and Afobe, but out wide - Stanislas and King can't play every game. They have Ryan Fraser aswell but maybe having a Willock on the bench additionally would be good for them. Same in CM - who do they have outside of the really good pairing of Gosling and Arter who could do a job?
We need to look at teams who play similar and have a need we can assist them with. Not just whoever will have them.
redanddread
The stone that the builders refuse
playing PSG at home - need a win, 1-0 down though
Here's a link to a link
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/5eh2tb/match_thread_1300_gmt_arsenal_youth_vs_paris/
Here's a link to a link
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/5eh2tb/match_thread_1300_gmt_arsenal_youth_vs_paris/
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redanddread
The stone that the builders refuse
Ooooooooh
Arsenal should be level. Great play by Mavididi
Arsenal should be level. Great play by Mavididi
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Mavidi scores (pen).
