He's a weird player. All the stats suggest that he's had a good game but it doesn't seem to translate in to anything tangible. He just doesn't seem to fit any manager or system here.
Off the top of my head I'm thinking about someone like Maxwell Cornet who had 7 goals and 5 assists in 12 starts in 18/19 for Lyon, but he's also someone who you wouldn't see translating to the EPL. Clinton N'Jie and his 7 goals and 7 assists in 15 starts before making the move to Tottenham is probably a better example, either way in both cases they are better returns on a per90 basis than Pepe's last season, with the caveat of smaller sample size, and they are both players who didn't or wouldn't likely translate to EPL.
Saka is a better fit in this system and so starts ahead of him. Doesn’t matter what was paid for him that’s how it is, why does it matter?Maybe because the club record signing should never be a back-up to anyone in his main position?
Pepe just doesn't work in the PL. Like bayerns analysis suggested, he needs way too much space and time to do special things consistently.
And the key is consistency in this game. He is absolutely talented and capable of great things. But not here, he looks like he doesn't believe in himself either. I never feel like he can dribble past someone, he's a one trick pony in terms of the left foot.
Could actually be better on the right hand side but then you lose something if Tierney plays.
I was thinking a similar thing.Saka is a better fit in this system and so starts ahead of him. Doesn’t matter what was paid for him that’s how it is, why does it matter?
To use your own logic. The other day you were saying Saka has the same potential as 100M pound Jadon Sancho. In that case what’s wrong with the 70M player being backup to the guy with the same potential as a 100M player?
My stance on Pepe is very simple. I don't think he is worth 72 million. I think the right price was about 40 million. I don't believe he needs to be in a transition team to flourish.
It's quite interesting reading my initial quotes on him when we were linked. I didn't think he was good enough and I thought he had mentality issues.
Personally, I do feel he is good enough, but he needs the system to be geared towards him and I don't think that is going to happen, so we will probably sell.
My take on him is that his status in the line up in the way that he plays, is like Auba and Martinelli. I wouldn't compare him to Saka as I think they are different players.
Pepe is a finisher and a player who can play the final ball. He is someone you want around the edge of the box having the final action. He isn't someone you want in the build up. He isn't the pre assist guy, and he isn't the guy who beats players on the touchline to then play combinations.
You want him on the edge of the box shooting, on the corner of the box playing a clipped or through ball or running into the box with the ball. The problem with this is, for this to happen, you need the build up to go down the left hand side. Currently our build up goes down the right with Saka, ESR and Laca all leaning to the right. You then have Auba or Martinelli vacating the left wing and Tierney holding the width.
None of that actually suits him. The only way it would work is if we made him the main finisher. He isn't taking that off Auba and we don't have a full back who is as good as Tierney to hold the ball on the right touchline.
The other fact is Saka is simply better than him. He knows when to run, when to dribble, he moves to receive it better, he combines better, he is better defensively and he has end product, not to mention a right foot. I do feel Saka can do the exact same thing from the left though.
Saka--------Martinelli---------Pepe
That is the front 3 I would like to see to be honest. At least once.
Sometimes I do wonder if people actually watch closely what he is doing. Every time he touches the ball he makes a risk, he is not a back passer like Willian or a hit&run merchant like Auba. He will always have a high number of shots and chances created, he will always create space for others simply because 1 defender on the edge of the box can't mark. All that comes with a cost of losing the ball more often than Willian or other "safe" players, it only depends on the manager if he is willing to play the game like that.
The fun thing on this forum is that people have wet dreams about Mahrez and Zaha, they criticize Pepe on a daily basis even though their heroes from other clubs do exactly the same mistakes as Pepe. Zaha is allowed to make mistakes, for them, it doesn't matter if he loses the ball 20 times as long as he can produce the right volume of shots and creating opportunities for others.
Now imagine how it is to play football when you are Pepe, where your every mistake is heavily criticized and the manager can't wait to put you on the bench, and how it is for Zaha when he can have a free role and do whatever he feels like. Pepe can't play his football within this environment, no way, but Zaha wouldn't be able to do it either
Yeah, I also think Mahrez is a bit above Pepe and Zaha, but he is also a risk player. Doesn't matter though because City controls the game for fun and he can get on the ball more often.The problem is, Pepe is playing a high risk game but the amount of times he succeeds is so low that the pro's of his playing style do not compensate the cons. I don't rate Zaha either, think he would also fail here. Mahrez is on a different level though. Everytime he gets the ball it's dangerous and he's also able to go to his weaker foot, something Pepe is not capable of.
Yeah, I also think Mahrez is a bit above Pepe and Zaha, but he is also a risk player. Doesn't matter though because City controls the game for fun and he can get on the ball more often.
It's all about the preference of the manager and what he wants to do, it's not a coincidence that we can't create anything and our "risk" player is locked on the bench.
He's only had 24-28 starts in two seasons combined? 4 starts this season and it's half way through the season with no hope of him coming back in (with Ødegaard also coming in).And here we are, January 2021. Whenever he gets the ball he looks like a deer caught in the headlights. I'd love for him to succeed, and there are times where he has a decent-ish game, but I can't see it. Whenever he has the ball at his feet, his technique looks questionable at best. He has a good left foot, but that's about it. Imagine him being at United or Sp**s, we'd laugh our asses off.
We need to cut our losses and sell him to the highest bidder. We can't go down the Mustafi route where we terminate his contract in a few years time just because we hope he gets his act together.
He's only had 24-28 starts in two seasons combined? 4 starts this season and it's half way through the season with no hope of him coming back in (with Ødegaard also coming in).
People act like he's been here two seasons playing every prem match when that's not been the case he always been in and out. I think most players struggle with that.
With Saka, he doesn't fall over and he makes the right pass consistently where as Pepe struggles so, it's right he is not in the team. It doesn't help him that both managers didn't really want him though.
The main reason I am like sell him is not cause of his ability, but cause of Arteta - he's just not going to use him and he will never defeat the price tag.
I personally think we will regret it down the line though. The team will still be dogsh*t once he goes anyways.
We can bring who we want tbh, doesn't matter.That's why we have to do what other big teams are doing. Sell him and invest the money to better the team. That looks like a much better option than to wait and hope that Pepe will come good.
We can bring who we want tbh, doesn't matter.
I hope not. He's only going to make us feel like we're playing with 10 men.We just need to play him regularly ffs.