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What is your predicted result?

  1. Arsenal win

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  2. Draw

    3.7%
  3. Burnley win

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  1. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    Yes, seen it now. I didn't see the lino flagging so we did celebrate at my end.
     
  2. RacingPhoton

    RacingPhoton Well-Known Member

    Please watch all the mistakes which Xhaka committed. He always has many options to pass but still manages to make those errors. So stop making excuses for that pathetic player.
     
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  3. RacingPhoton

    RacingPhoton Well-Known Member

    Two of the three midfielders are starting for the first time. And for the first time in three years, our midfielders have actually started taking on players and playing bravely. Xhaka, in spite of his demeanor, is actually a fearful person. He is afraid of press. In this match, we saw all our three midfielders easily break the press.

    The only problem we had in the match was, during first half all three were moving forward leaving the defense vulnerable. But it was rightly fixed in the second half and we were much more comfortable. Especially after Torreira came on. Torreira/Willock/Ceballos is the best possible midfield we have now. And after a long time, I saw a proper Arsenal style of play from the midfield. I hope they don't spoil it by bringing back that clown.
     
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  4. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford

    This more than anything.

    Burnley look good again, no Europa League handicap like last season.
     
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  5. Sanchez11

    Sanchez11 Superior Journalist To Charles Watts

    They are back to pre europa like you say. They are probably one of the best drilled teams in the league. We got a good result.
     
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  6. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Men's Rights Activist

    Why was Dyche moaning about diving, ffs. He might want to look at some of his team's tackling.
     
  7. RacingPhoton

    RacingPhoton Well-Known Member

    Also, some numbers for you:
    2018 Burnley match
    Possession: 60%
    Arsenal shots on target - 6
    Burnley shots on target - 2

    2019 Burnley match
    Possession: 68%
    Arsenal shots on target - 9
    Burnley - 6

    Other stats are all pretty similar. I would say this is a better performance given that half of our team is new and it is the first home game of the season
     
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  8. kraphtous

    kraphtous Raul Stanllehi

    The only problems weren’t just in the first half, you’re deluding yourself because we won without Xhaka and you’re desperately trying to prove how massive this performance was. Burnley pressured us until the last second so Torreira didn’t really have an effect at all, just like he didn’t last season while Xhaka was out.

    Torreira/Willock/Ceballos is maybe a midfield you play against Championship level club or on FIFA. In reality, you need someone like Xhaka in there to shore things defensively and to break the lines with great passing, now this was proven last season instead of something coming out of a fantasy.
     
  9. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Dishonest To His Federation

    No matter what people say we still need to improve our general attacking play. It was flat and dull today for large part of the game!

    My opinion still is that dropping Laca and play Auba as striker. Will go long way I think!
     
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  10. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    There’s nothing Xhaka can do that none of Torreira/Willock/Ceballos can’t.
     
  11. kraphtous

    kraphtous Raul Stanllehi

    It’s the other way around, none of them offer the things that Xhaka offers. Which is why he’s a regular in the first XI and Torreira/Willock are not.
     
  12. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    What exactly does he offer?
     
  13. kraphtous

    kraphtous Raul Stanllehi

    Better passing range, better defensive skills, more height, leadership, more goals, more assists, big game performances.
     
  14. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Men's Rights Activist

    He's also casual on the ball, slow and immobile, ill disciplined and not to mention, a total half wit.
     
  15. kraphtous

    kraphtous Raul Stanllehi

    I did not say that we can’t improve on him or that he is a perfect midfielder, just that he is our best option with the current squad.
     
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  16. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Men's Rights Activist

    No, he's not. He's our worst. He's hit his ceiling. Willock, Torreira and Guendouzi are nowhere near it and are outstanding talents. We need an element of patience with them. We have not qualified once with Xhaka in the first team for the CL. That is so incredibly damning.
     
  17. Ash10

    Ash10 Jury Lite

    I don't get why there's a debate about Xhaka starting or not. He's supposed to be be better than Guendouzi/ Willock, he's like 6-7 years older after all.
    But the thing is he's good at very specific things while being error prone & terrified of getting pressed. Guendouzi will far surpass him as a player, just that atm Xhaka is slightly better at it
     
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  18. kraphtous

    kraphtous Raul Stanllehi

    Yes he is our best option if we want to win games, Emery clearly agrees as he is one of the first names in the sheet and was made captain.

    Willock, Torreira, Guendouzi may one day get better and reach (or exceed) Xhaka's level but they are not there yet so Xhaka starts every game he is fit.
     
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  19. morpho

    morpho #ArtetaOut = Permanent Ban

    There is no arguing about the need for improovement. You saw the urge and energy Pepe brought with him. This will get better through out the games. I do believe thats how Emery wants it. More speed, more direct play, one touch even that we seem to have forgot the last couple of years...
    Not sure if we have the luxury though, to drop Laca. Nelson is still very unpolished and Mkhitaryan shouldnt be near our starting XI. Hopefully its the product of a lesser evil. We will see in january.

    And about playing it safe against Burnley at home. As many have said, its game nr 2, with alot of improovment needed. 3 points is a hellofalot more important than anybodys ego.
     
  20. DJ_Markstar

    DJ_Markstar Well-Known Member

    Same can be said for Lacazette, Leno and Aubameyang.

    Xhaka is criminally underrated here, not sure why. Clearly a very competent midfielder with a lot of upside.
     
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