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Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by razörist, Aug 17, 2019.

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What is your predicted result?

Poll closed Aug 24, 2019.
  1. Liverpool win

    40.5%
  2. Draw

    29.0%
  3. Arsenal win

    30.5%
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  1. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    I only managed to watch the first 30 and although we were doing ok I wasn't surprised to see the final score. As soon as I saw Xhaka & Guendouzi starting I thought any chance we had of getting something had gone. I was pleased to see Willock starting but really wanted Torreira to start with him. Anyway, Sp**s next, we need to win!
     
  2. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    This is not loser mentality we are not at thier level or man city why people not admit they are levels above?
     
  3. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    They still Lost 4-1 and could lost by more so what your point?
     
  4. <<reed>>

    <<reed>> Meme Merchant

    We went to Anfield and played like a Championship side yet again.
     
  5. #254

    #254 Well-Known Member

    No one refutes that they are a few levels above us. But then again hell, are Wolves or Leicester or Soton in our level or any other top team? No. Are you certain before the match that they will give you one hell of a game? Absolutely. Now that is all I want from my Arsenal, not one that concedes defeat before the match has ****ing began. Btw, I don't put my blame on the players, other than Luiz ofcoures. My blame goes to the manager for setting up poorly.
     
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  6. Penn_

    Penn_ Established Member

    But this is also a bad take. No one is expects to go toe to toe with last seasons league runners up and CL winners.

    It wouldn’t be unreasonably though to expect a small period of possession where we threaten. Our chances were that of a relegation side.
     
  7. #254

    #254 Well-Known Member

    Tbf, for me my only postives about the game was Willock putting up a dispalay and watching Pepe trying to curl them from the 18. Other than that, I don't see anything to be proud about. What are your feelings about Emery's set up btw?
     
  8. RacingPhoton

    RacingPhoton Well-Known Member

    We never looked like winning the game or getting a draw out of it. Liverpool just stood back after scoring three goals. If not, the goal difference would have been worse.

    And second place? Seriously? With three matches to be played today?
     
  9. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Whether it was a plan to soak it up, or whether we had no choice but to play on the counter, doesn't really matter--the score was 3-1 this time and we've gone there with far more experienced and cohesive sides in the past, played a far more expansive game and got absolutely decimated. IMO, we simply weren't good enough where it mattered, to play the way we wanted to play.

    Hindsight is great, but I don't see the point in dissecting the scoreline or the route we took this time, to another loss to an unquestionably superior and cohesive Liverpool side.
     
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  10. 9jagooner

    9jagooner Well-Known Member

    Emery failed to learn from his last season's experience.
    The set up was wrong and starting personnel wrong. And how many times have we said Aubameyang up front on his own is not a good idea?
    If you're going to play only one of Auba or Laca, play Laca. In games like yesterday's, start both.
    Also what's it with playing from the back given that we're yet to master it?
     
  11. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character

    Probably the same people who cursed us attack over the years and get done on the counter by our rivals.

    Fail to realise its baby steps and how far behind weve been in recent years.

    As for people laughing at us being second atm. At this stage last year we had 3 from 9. We were playing catch up from the very start. We are not playing catch up. Man Utd are, Chelsea are. We finished one point behind Sp**s, two behind Chelsea. Being where we are now is massive. Its an advantage to be ahead. Less pressure on us.

    Of course people may say its only Newcastle and Burnley but United dropped points to Wolves and Palace, Chelsea to United and Leicester. Realistically its more important we win against the other 13, thats 78 points. Thats where the season is won and lost. Not away to Anfield. Not away to City. If we want to challenge for the title we need to start picking up points at our rivals but im pretty sure nobody is realistically looking at the title when we've players still to return and players waiting to gel.
     
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  12. Jasard

    Jasard Forum Issue Troubleshooter

    It's incredibly rare for a team to get good spells of possession at Anfield but we could have done better sure, needed to react better to going a goal down. There are people expecting us to have matched Liverpool or even win by the way, just go back through the thread if you can be bothered - I'm not saying you were.

    Liverpool only let in 10 goals at home last season but we probably should have put away 3 if we took the chances. Their average score was something like 2.9 - 0.5 in the league. Its not bad going, well other than the finishing of course...

    Pepe dribbled past VVD, amazingly no one has done that for 50 games. His dribbling was a good sign and hopefully he takes off soon it will take us up a level.

    We had our fullbacks out, LT didn't start yet they will take us up a level too. I'd like to think with them back and if this game was a few months down the line when the squad is more familiar we might have had a better result.
     
  13. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    We wont lose much ground on rivals by losing to Liverpool anyway. They'll get those points back for us as long as we can beat the teams we're meant to be beating. That's where we are and there's no point getting big ideas just yet.
     
  14. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Pochy gone with game plan against city his team ended up with total 3 shots and came out with 1 point because his players were clinical unlike ours.

    I bet thier fans are raging too because they should go and attack city
     
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  15. UpTheGunnerz

    UpTheGunnerz No Longer Phallus Obsessed

    Liverpool are a different kind of beast aren't they
     
  16. krengon

    krengon One Arsene Wenger Trusted

    Seriously people are talking like we lost after a good performance..

    Now I don’t think Emery got it wrong to begin with, he should have been reactive after the 2nd goal though.. Our heads dropped and Liverpool was toying with us, we desperately needed changes at that point, but waited too long..
     
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  17. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    Problem is people watch the game (if they do) and then get online to talk about their agendas rather than the football. I saw a game where Liverpool struggled to create chances until they took the lead on 41 from a poorly-defended corner where Leno too might have done better.

    It still looked like a game where we could get something until 49 minutes when Luiz (not Mustafi) gave away an unnecessary penalty. That was game over though, oddly, I still felt even in the last ten minutes that if we'd scored a second we could have made it a very nervy ending to the game for them.

    It's always the manager's fault when you lose, technically speaking. But we have taken some really severe beatings at most top six grounds in the last years of the Wenger era and then, on the few occasions to opted to work against character and set out very defensive teams and got a result, I didn't see many complaints. Neither should there have been. The stupidity is when you don't take opponents strengths and weaknesses into account. To reduce everything to Xhaka and Mustafi and whoever's pet dislike is pretty pointless.

    So I didn't see a disaster yesterday. I have seen a team in the first three games which, when we get the injured boys back and gel together as a team, will nail 4th and might even get 3rd. After that it's as it should be - up to the Kronkes.
     
  18. Brolin

    Brolin Liverpool Fan

    While I agree with the people here that the diamond formation Emery deployed was all wrong, I disagree when people say he “threw” the game before it even began. I highly doubt he set you up to go to Anfield and park the bus.
    That was down to us forcing you back. You couldn’t get out, the only out ball was pumping it long to one of your quick forwards.
    Our new system that Klopp has been deploying made City and Chelsea look like pub teams in the second halves we played them. The only difference is, yesterday we got it right from the off.

    We step up 10 yards, make the pitch small, and rely on our midfielders and fullback to get to the second balls first. High risk with high reward.
    It works like a vice grip that keeps on tightening, the opposition can’t relieve the pressure and sooner later they have to crack. It’s pretty relentless.
    In the second half, we dropped back 10 yards and allowed you to play, so we can pick you off on the counter attack.

    So yeah, this wasn’t on Emery in my opinion. You just got outplayed from back to front.
     
  19. yybecause

    yybecause Formerly known as ArsenaLover

    Romb is a no no for PL, especially against 'attack thru wings' Pool. So I do go with Unai missing tactics for this one, and it's nothing I realized after the game.
    Still, not surprised at anything and not worried of anything

    Pool is not that good also
     
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  20. Beksl

    Beksl Sell All The Youngsters

    No we didn’t.
     
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