Useless International matches

[Notorious Big]

A French team that made it the last Euro finals gets a little more slack in WC qualifying than does one that drew twice in the group stages to subpar competition, then exited to Iceland in their first knockout game.

France is good.Think they are on Spain's level in terms of history in international football.

 

[Lookin' for a new Baby]

Kane knocking them every where but in the net.

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

Iceland beat Holland in the qualifying and France were on home soil.

Someone has to stick up for England.

Fine, but what's your point? That France are less fun to watch, or worse than (or at most on par with) England? Or just that they are not held to as high as standard? Just because you don't hear the criticism as loudly in English, doesn't mean they aren't getting ripped apart in France

And Holland is awful.

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

France is good.Think they are on Spain's level in terms of history in international football.

They're going to be really good for the next ~decade. Their B team would easily make it out of the WC group stages.

 

[rich 1990]

Kyle Walker, i'd rather Walker's Crisps.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Kane is one of the bigger fraud in football.

 

[rich 1990]

Fine, but what's your point? That France are less fun to watch, or worse than (or at most on par with) than England?

And Holland is awful.

My overriding point is England get bashed repeatedly. We know their limitations so I don't see why people enjoy pointing it out so often.

 

[Notorious Big]

They're going to be really good for the next ~decade. Their B team would easily make it out of the WC group stages.

Yeah,Germany,France and Spain look very well.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

This is torture.

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

My overriding point is England get bashed repeatedly. We know their limitations so I don't see why people enjoy pointing it out so often.

I think that's sampling bias to a degree -- the French, German, and Spanish teams are also bashed constantly, just not on websites or TV channels you follow.

 

[Keplaz]

Lingard doing more in 5 minutes than Ox in 65 mins. I wish England had made more of an attempt to get Iwobi involved. Also we are desperately missing Welbeck and Dele Alli.

 

[rich 1990]

I think that's sampling bias to a degree -- the French, German, and Spanish teams are also bashed constantly, just not on websites or TV channels you follow.

I meant on this forum.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

Kane is one of the bigger fraud in football.

He scored against Huddersfield tho, he must be world class.

 

[Makingtrax]

There's a reason that no English manager has ever won the Premier League & is unlikely to do so in the forseeable future - they've got no top class managers in the land whatsoever. Sort your managers out & you'll sort out your NT.

Like many players there's just too much money in the English game for any of them to leave and try and broaden their managerial talents abroad. Go coach in Italy, Spain, Germany, even France or South America and broaden your horizons. If Pep could go to Mexico to help his development & Wenger to Japan, some of these cloggers could try somewhere new.

But even foreign managers couldn't spark much life into our national side.

The talent on the pitch is what matters and sadly, it's been generally accepted that we've been technically inferior for some years on the international stage.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

I meant on this forum.

Sure, but that's only because most people here don't care about any other team. People enjoy talking football, and when England happens to be the topic, they give an opinion.

It's long established, for example, that Mesut Özil isn't exactly a midfield workhouse, but still gets discussed pretty regularly.

 

[Keplaz]

England are like us (Arsenal) in a way. Qualify for the Major Tournaments but never ever come close to winning it. We always walk the qualifiers and then do nothing when it counts.

 

[Lookin' for a new Baby]

Boos ring out.

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

But even foreign managers couldn't spark much life into our national side.

The talent on the pitch is what matters and sadly, it's been generally accepted that we've been technically inferior for some years on the international stage.

I think our spine, save for Kane/Alli is by far the biggest weakness. Rashford, Kane, Alli, and Sterling are above average and should get goals, but not if they can't get the ball.

No clear CB pairing, no clear MF starters save maybe Dier, and insistence upon playing Hart over keepers to whom he is inferior. Kind of like De Gea riding the bench for Castillas, except that Castillas at least won them things.

 

[A_G]

Honestly think Lallana and Welbeck would make a real difference here.