What is the biggest mistake the club made that has put us in our current situation?

[UpTheGunnerz]

Klopp has done everything right at Pool since arriving, weeded out the un-necessities, been doing splendid in the transfer windows and inhaled a winning culture. Marvelous manager, on his way to become the 2nd best in the league history if he stays a decade or so

 

[GDeep™]

Matip on a free was significantly better business than Mustafi for 35 million...he was very good that season, they got Champions League, then were in a position to spend that kind of money in the future.

Liverpool have been great with their funds since Klopp went there.

Of course. It says a lot though when you come on here and people keep talking about Xhaka and Mustafi, it was only 60M ffs. How many years we going to keep talking about those deals? What about all the profits Wenger made?

How ridiculous does this sound? We have a billionaire owner, a manager in Wenger who made massive profits, yet people still cry about Mustafi.

Btw, I think I was the only person who was against Mustafi when we signed him, this forum loved the signing. Hopefully someone can find the thread where we were linked with him.

 

[GDeep™]

Klopp has done everything right at Pool since arriving, weeded out the un-necessities, been doing splendid in the transfer windows and inhaled a winning culture. Marvelous manager, on his way to become the 2nd best in the league history if he stays a decade or so

Took him 5 years to win his first league, and a few hundred million. At this rate he’ll need to be at Liverpool till 2035 plus to surpass Wenger in the PL.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

Took him 5 years to win his first league, and a few hundred million. At this rate he’ll need to be at Liverpool till 2035 plus to surpass Wenger in the PL.

Nah, disagree. Depends on future results ofc

 

[GDeep™]

Instead of marvelling at other managers and their records, again, when are our owners going to hire and back managers for something other than finish top 6?

It’s like you guys are looking everywhere but at the guys running our club.

Next season when we finish 6-8 who do we blame? Artera? Wenger? AFTV? Özil? Immigrants? Trump? The weather? Because I know we don’t look at Stan.

 

[GDeep™]

Nah, disagree. Depends on future results ofc

Been here 5 years and no domestic success at all. I suspect he’ll leave soon too, guessing a club like Liverpool is too intense and you need a break.

 

[RacingPhoton]

I thought about the mistakes we made in the last two decades and every single mistake just ends in the hands of Gazidis. Most of the mistakes were made in transfer windows. The window where we only signed Cech was a master class **** up. We lost the season to ****ing Leicester. That season was a golden chance for us. Every other team was going through some churn. We had the advantage of having a stable set-up. Still we ****ed up. If we had won that season, Arsenal would have been lot different now.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

Been here 5 years and no domestic success at all. I suspect he’ll leave soon too, guessing a club like Liverpool is too intense and you need a break.

Klopp seems to enjoy intensivy though.
One league win, one CL, two other european finals, a more or less complete team. Potential for long term domination

 

[Oxeki]

Took him 5 years to win his first league, and a few hundred million. At this rate he’ll need to be at Liverpool till 2035 plus to surpass Wenger in the PL.

That's because he couldn't match city's spending.

At least now he has a first XI that can match any team in the world

 

[GDeep™]

Klopp seems to enjoy intensivy though.
One league win, one CL, two other european finals, a more or less complete team. Potential for long term domination

It’s a big test for him and the club, you can argue this current cycle is coming to an end and they have to spend on a new crop of players and go again. Get those signings right again.

 

[rich 1990]

Signing Xhaka

 

[Macho]

Instead of marvelling at other managers and their records, again, when are our owners going to hire and back managers for something other than finish top 6?

It’s like you guys are looking everywhere but at the guys running our club.

Next season when we finish 6-8 who do we blame? Artera? Wenger? AFTV? Özil? Immigrants? Trump? The weather? Because I know we don’t look at Stan.

I personally blame the people who sold to Stan and Stan himself. The mentality behind those selling shares to him is exactly why we pushed through brexit in UK, we sadly have a deep rooted problem over here.
I also blame the Emirates move - I remember when David Dein strongly opposed it. The club has not been the same since he left.

Wenger over achieved in the Emirates' initial years for sure. He fell off towards the end of his reign, which is a fair assessment to me but something that will divide fans forever.

Is he the reason why we are where we are now? I don't think so, he probably delayed it by 5 years.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

It’s a big test for him and the club, you can argue this current cycle is coming to an end and they have to spend on a new crop of players and go again. Get those signings right again.

Yeah nothing is set in Stone. But i feel the potential

 

[GDeep™]

Signing Xhaka

Yet he’s been a leader, captain and starter for every manager Arsenal have had.

Think a lot happened before and after those signings.

I mean Torreira isn’t a starter, he cost 30m. I don’t think Arteta will start him.

 

[Oxeki]

I thought about the mistakes we made in the last two decades and every single mistake just ends in the hands of Gazidis. Most of the mistakes were made in transfer windows. The window where we only signed Cech was a master class **** up. We lost the season to ****ing Leicester. That season was a golden chance for us. Every other team was going through some churn. We had the advantage of having a stable set-up. Still we ****ed up. If we had won that season, Arsenal would have been lot different now.

That's the one of our most damaging transfer window ever.

We didn't really need to bin Scezeny and sign Cech.

Our biggest need that summer was a striker. If we had a striker, we probably would have won the league.

I bet Gazidis was wanking himself over a second place finish

 

[rich 1990]

Yet he’s been a leader, captain and starter for every manager Arsenal have had.

Think a lot happened before and after those signings.

I mean Torreira isn’t a starter, he cost 30m. I don’t think Arteta will start him.

With him, and Mustafi here, we've gone from top 4 to 10th Go figure.

 

[Riou]

Instead of marvelling at other managers and their records, again, when are our owners going to hire and back managers for something other than finish top 6?

It’s like you guys are looking everywhere but at the guys running our club.

Next season when we finish 6-8 who do we blame? Artera? Wenger? AFTV? Özil? Immigrants? Trump? The weather? Because I know we don’t look at Stan.

Everyone has mentioned how **** Stan is mate...you're not some whistle-blower, fighting the good fight all by yourself

 

[GDeep™]

With him, and Mustafi here, we've gone from top 4 to 10th Go figure.

We were 5th last season mate, spent 150M and went to 10th.

 

[Red London]

Everyone has mentioned how **** Stan is mate...you're not some whistle-blower, fighting the good fight all by yourself

Exactly. There are still decisions to be made under a ****ty owner that can make you crap, or a good team.

Whenever we talk about anyone but Kroenke, its still within the Kroenke universe, we arent protecting him or making excuses. If all we could possibly scrutinise is Silent Stan we might as pack it in as fans and call it a day.

I guess @GDeep™ has already done that though.

 

[GDeep™]

Everyone has mentioned how **** Stan is mate...you're not some whistle-blower, fighting the good fight all by yourself

I’m not sure. When Wenger was here it was the same, I was questioning Stan while you all killed a man getting us top 4 on peanuts.