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He looked completely out of his depth vs Liverpool on the opening day, I'd say limiting him to cup games is the wisest decision currently and then loaning him next season.
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Rob Holding: The Return
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It's one thing to come in and play well in one off games against a certain (weaker) caliber of opposition but playing week in, week out at a high level is big boy stuff as @fabo would say and surely enough, Holding would have copped a hiding at one point which could have been disastrous to his confidence.
What happened to Chambers is a reminder of what can happen after a prolonged run of games in the first team when despite talent, you aren't ready.
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He didn't look out of his depth against L'pool. And considering he partnered Chambers (another young defender), that's not exactly a factor that would help his performance. Holding is a young player and may take a while to develop into a top player or he may take to the top level similar to other young defenders like Laporte or Varane. Simple fact is we won't know unless he plays.
Gabriel has shown that he is not up to the standard. Much rather give Holding with his considerable promise the game time Gabriel has squandered.
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This is rubbish. In Chambers' debut season, he started the season really well at CB including a top performance against Besiktas away from home. His struggles began when he was taken in and out of the team and played at CB and RB.
CaseUteinberger
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This is where I struggle with Wenger and how he handles young players, especially on defence. He puts them in difficult positions too often.
ARSNLNO1
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It's not just younger players mate, Wenger has always had a hard on for putting round pegs in square holes and playing players where he chooses not their natural positions. Don't get me wrong on the odd occasion this has worked wonders. but i can't help but feel it hinders the younger players development when done to them.
ARSNLNO1
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Totally agree, in Chambers we have a very underrated young CB that has proved his worth in a team that spends the majority of it's time defending. Chambers & Gibson have formed an excellent partnership and have proved that Chambers has a lot to offer Arsenal.
The future partnership of Chambers & Holding seriously excites me, but they need a couple of experienced heads to bring them through now and neither to be pushed into playing other positions.
CaseUteinberger
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Fully agree. It's almost a tick with him. Strange as he shows so little flexibility otherwise. It's like he has made up his mind 15-20y ago that this is the right method and has kept doing it ever since regardless of results.
Mitch
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I didnt see the under 21s match but from what I read Holding had a very good game.
mm76
Yer Da
Yes, Gabriel is the biggest fail of the season
BobP
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No point in judging defensive players under Wenger.
Even Maldini playing in this current team would have been made to look like a fool.
Even Maldini playing in this current team would have been made to look like a fool.
Good performance, very mature. He's seems like such a likeable guy.
Looka like a f**king steal for 3M pounds. really calm defender not panic under pressure if he keep up we have new Kosh in our hand his game similar to Kosh
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If his name was Roberto Holdo, he'd be playing for Madrid.
Such a classy CB.
Such a classy CB.
SuperGoon
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Don't over rate him so early guys. He's good, but he has a lot more to do.
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Fail to understand why we have given so much game time to Gabriel when it is clear as day that Holding possesses more potential AND is performing better currently.
I don't think it called overrating it's more praising today it was his first game in the league since Watford away 7 months ago..
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Big fan of him.
Think he could become very good CB in the future.
Think he could become very good CB in the future.
nick gould
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He didn't do much wrong and that's all. Based on tonight's performance I don't know how you have come to that conclusion. On the whole our 3 central defenders were dominated by Negredo aerial and that's not good.
mm76
Yer Da
Totally, can't believe how people are getting so carried away - partly to blame for their goal and Traore made him look very ordinary at times
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