really bro? i think its harder seeing as you play for a weaker team, meaning your team has less possession of the ball and are more likely on the back foot.
Not really. CB's have a much harder task playing for Arsenal where we play a high line, constantly on the attack and the CB's need to be very good in 1 vs 1 defending and dealing with dangerous counter attacks.
However we still have more posession when we play lower teams like middlesborough, so our defenders get tested less than theirs. If your comments about chambers are to be believed then we should only loan young players to teams on the same level as arsenal. Chambers is finally showing the potential that earned him the move from southampton. We got rob holding from bolton which plays at a lower league than ours, so i am guessing that doesnt count.
Our CB's often get exposed 1v1 due to the nature of our game and those that succeed at Arsenal need to be adept at dealing with such situations. Being a good defender at Boro doesn't necessarily mean that you will be a good defender at Arsenal as the circumstances are very different.
as opposed to chambers who is an unintelligent defender? what makes holding a better defender than chambers? despite the fact chambers has proved he can be a good defender in the premier league with soton, maybe not with us and now with middlesborough. What have you seen of holding that you think makes him a more intelligent defender than chambers. He arrived here without the pressure of a high transfer fee and he played at a lower league, so please do tell me why you think he is better than chambers.
I think you're incorrectly assuming what I'm saying. I have in no way said that Chambers is an unintelligent defender. What I have said is that CB's have to face very different circumstances playing for say Middlesbrough or even Southampton for that matter & not every CB that plays well for such clubs will be a success at Arsenal.
Huge difference in expectation playing for Middlesborough vs Arsenal. He's already made a handful of costly mistakes at Boro, where they're normally swept under the rug. At Arsenal, a few costly mistakes as a defender defines your season. Stakes are just a little higher here.
When I saw them both at the toulon tournament last summer I thought Holding was inferior. Since he's been here though he looks a far better fit than Chambers, for starters he actually looks like a CB, taller, leaner, stronger.
he started off as a right back for soton right? and also good technically. personally i think he may have a better future as a def mid
Yes, Wenger said he bought him after we played Saints and he played well at RB.
**** sake man. What makes sense is to bin Mertesacker.
Who came closest to taking points off Chelsea? That would be the team of choice to loan him to, if it were upto me.(outside of the top 6 of course)
Per will be ahead of him in the pecking order until the summer at least, makes sense to have him play regularly until then.
Swansea.
Rather he stays here this season on goes on a season long loan next.
He probably won't play much this season, whereas Per is likely to leave this summer so Holding will be needed next season imo.
