FA Cup 4th Round: Arsenal v Manchester United | January 25, 2019 19:55 GMT | BBC One

[Marmaduke]

I would agree, maybe our players are tired? We cover lots of ground but today completely ran out of steam midway. United hit on the pedal at the right moment.

 

[dashsnow17]

This match doesn't really matter, not in the cold light of day, it's just the problem is that it's not the cold light of day it's a Friday night against Utd at home and we really wanted to win that. That's the issue.

Objectively speaking though the loss really isn't the end of the world. The injuries to Sokratis and Kos however, hm yeah, that's not so good. The fact we can't seem to build a run of wins at the moment, also not so good.

 

[Furious]

I can stomach this loss as long as we beat them in the league game.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

What I don’t understand with many of our games this season is the changes that happen every match.
We beat Chelsea with a certain set up with certain players, yet we come into this game with different players in a different system.

It makes no sense.

We literally made one change that wasn't enforced. You can't approach every game with the same tactical setup. I thought things were going pretty well for us before Sokratis got injured tbh. Emery clearly wanted us to play with two wide men in a 4-2-3-1 as he felt the full-back area was a weakness for United.

 

[Erlis]

I loved wenger

But my God i will defend Emery cuz hes one of us.. And deserves a chance

Wenger wasn't one of you, or was he? All the hate he got only for the last two seasons I watched arsenal, I felt bad for him in all honesty.

Emery should know that he is at Arsenal to replace a big man, if he doesn't know that till now. And no, I dont care whether he plays Özil or not.

 

[bingobob]

Yup, now the squad is **** and nobody could be expected to have any success with them.

I think they can be expected to have success but that doesn't take away from issues that needed addressing long term. Defence and midfield. Torreira And Xhaka is a very good partnership. Sokratis is the player we've long since needed. Even when he got injured he practically ripped off Lingards t shirt. Someone dirty and clever. But after that you've still the general weakness. Who partners him? Who plays out wide? Have we to many similar players? Long term left back. The basis of a good team was left by Wenger. It needs tinkered with and that's what we are slowly doing.

It also doesn't take away from the fact that the team which finished second last season is sixth and a near dominate City has been replaced by Liverpool at the top. The environment is as competitive as it ever has been. And that's not looking at Everton, Wolves and West Ham who are throwing around some financial muscle.

 

[Sniper Mik]

I would agree, maybe our players are tired? We cover lots of ground but today completely ran out of steam midway. United hit on the pedal at the right moment.

3rd goal killed us. Gave up after that. Psychologically you need to keep up as well, not just physically.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Need to sell mustafi as well the guy just isn't good not leader can't organise his defense. Just sell get 20M and buy some good center backs

 

[Marmaduke]

Wenger wasn't one of you, or was he? All the hate he got only for the last two seasons I watched arsenal, I felt bad for him in all honesty.

The last 2 years were embarrassing. You could think Wenger was past his prime and had to go but a part of the fanbase was just hysterically shameful.

 

[rich 1990]

Jury's agenda Özil is embarrassing. First game for ages, what did you expect? He also played some nice passes and wasn't even that bad. Everyone else was piss. Hardly his fault.

 

[2Smokeyy]

I can stomach this loss as long as we get CL football and they miss out.

Correct.

 

[squallman]

Yup, now the squad is **** and nobody could be expected to have any success with them.

Baffling isn't it? I don't want to imagine what on here would be like if Wenger was still here, lost 5-1 to Liverpool and got knocked out of both cups by Sp**s and United, at home.

This team is even better than the one Wenger left thanks to our summer additions but its somehow deemed to be terrible.

It wasn't terrible for all the years Wenger was manager. Its also amazing how almost no one has acknowledged that they were wrong about Wenger being some sort of penny-pinching scrooge who refused to spend any money now that Emery has come out and said the club can only do loan deals.

Its crystal clear now that our frugalness was a board level policy and not one carried out by Wenger to ya know, spite his own chances of being successful.

That was proven when he had prime Cazorla, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Monreal, Cazorla, Özil and Alexis yet lost the league to Leicester

He also had prime Giroud go on a 15 game scoring drought that season. That statement wasn't meant as a defence of Wenger or an attack on Emery btw. Just pointing out that our lot isn't half as good as some fans thought. It wasn't Wenger holding them back

In 1997 the outlook was very different. There was no mega money the CL hadn't the appeal it currently has or the money. Our team didnt require surgery either at a huge outlay. 15m was also the record transfer fee which today wouldnt be enough to buy Dennis Suarez. Completely different environments. But sure feel free to compare.

I'm not comparing their starts, you misunderstand me. I was pointing out the fact that Wenger got all the time in the world post 2005 to rebuild the squad multiple times because he had won 3 league titles.

What has Emery done for us to deserve the benefit of getting years to build a team?

 

[Impact]

Was always going to be a tough ask beating this Utd side after losing our first-choice central defenders. We weren't great, we weren't bad either. Game management at 1-0 was poor though.

 

[kofigunner]

It's clear the team will have to be rebuilt to Emery's specs, but our defensive injury problem is more than dire. For most part, the team is playing hard, no quit. Just need to fix our defensive system. We definitely need some more pace in the team.

 

[squallman]

Wenger had the right idea in offering him to West Brom. Can't understand why Tony Pulis didn't want him

Has Wenger ever tried to get rid of a first team player so quickly? Even Andre Santos got two seasons before Wenger threw him on the scrap heap

 

[Marmaduke]

3rd goal killed us. Gave up after that. Psychologically you need to keep up as well, not just physically.

True, everything deflated, one thing that disappointed me the most. Players were likely already thinking of the league at that point.

 

[field442]

I'm not comparing their starts, you misunderstand me. I was pointing out the fact that Wenger got all the time in the world post 2005 to rebuild the squad multiple times because he had won 3 league titles.

What has Emery done for us to deserve the benefit of getting years to build a team?

Are you serious? You're saying Wenger got given time because of his body of work over 8 years and you're asking what has Emery done for us in 6 months to be granted the same privilege?

 

[Marmaduke]

He also played some nice passes and wasn't even that bad. Everyone else was piss.

Actually played 2 passes in that short period that reminded me that nobody else in either team could. Forget the whole workrate debate, the guy's passing will always be WC.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Hopefully in the league game at Emirates against them we'll be more smart and more clinical. That's twice they come to our ground got dominated but still won 3-1.

 

[OnlyOne]

Honestly more gutted about the injuries than the result, hell even if we won I'd feel the same. Can't stress enough how important CL is and it's been made 10x more difficult with these sh*t draws.

As I said before, they'll have the same fate as Sp**s in the cup.

I can't get my head around the injuries though. Top 4 is their for the taking but it's getting harder week by week.