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League is very weak
He’s better than Bellerin, so he has a future here if you cash in on Bellerin.
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✍️ OFFICIAL Ainsley Maitland-Niles (Out)
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drippin
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Luckily Soton isn't a rival. They are a point behind us and have one game less.
senna
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I think the problem is he clearly doesnt want to play RB. He was probably ok playing Wing back as he could attack but wants to play mid. I think he should have got a run in the team when ppartey was out as a midfielder instead of ceballos & el neny but ultimately I dont know if he has the skills to make it as a starting midfielder here.
We should be holding out for £30m minimum for him. He's an England international, young & you get bums like rhian brewster going for £20m. This is not a mustafi or Sokratis situation where we need to shift him out.
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If he's better than Bellerin why isn't he starting? Anyway, Cedric is looking better than both of them.
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em9999
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Sell if we can, sod loaning
GDeep™
League is very weak
Managers have favourites. Bellerin stayed with Arteta and his family when he moved from Spain, clearly some relationship there.
Arteta should’ve sold him in the summer if he wasn’t going to play him. AMN was MOTM in his last RB game, while Cedric has been here 1 year and played 2 good games.
Player:Saliba
Sell Bellerin, promote Ainsley
Was saying this in the summer along with sell Leno, promote Martinez. Looks like we're making a similar mistake again
Was saying this in the summer along with sell Leno, promote Martinez. Looks like we're making a similar mistake again
senna
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Hold out for £30mYou're gonna be holding on a long time!
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English players values are only going to go up with brexit and the new work permit rules kick in. If Wolves offered £25m in the height of a pandemic, shoudlnt be too hard to get £5m more, I mean there's several clubs interested & a new one entering the race all the time so shoudlnt be difficult to get a bidding war going.
Not sure this is a good move. He needs to be guaranteed to start, which I’m not sure he will be there.
Southampton would be very nice loan not sure he'd start ahead of Bertrand or Walker-peteres
Oh_Snap
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looks more like nobody should listen to you based on that statement?
Player:Saliba
Why?
Martinez is having a great season and Bellerin has been poor...Could have had enough for another player or two if we'd sold Leno and Bellerin
TornadoTed
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I just don't see 'it' with AMN, he looks pretty average all round except for his athleticism. I also have huge concerns over his desire and attitude.
He should have been building on his FA Cup heroics to really cement himself in the first team for this season but he doesn't look like he can be arsed most of the time.
If someone offers us £20m with our current financial predicament I would bite their hand off.
He should have been building on his FA Cup heroics to really cement himself in the first team for this season but he doesn't look like he can be arsed most of the time.
If someone offers us £20m with our current financial predicament I would bite their hand off.
Neither bellerin and AMN deserve start for club that want top 4 both average all round I'd sell them both in summer and buy someone that better
Why?
Could have had enough for another player or two if we'd sold Leno and Bellerin
Who wanted to buy Leno?
Not sure Southampton would accept Bertrand AMN swap deal they very short in fullbacks
TornadoTed
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Why?
Could have had enough for another player or two if we'd sold Leno and Bellerin
It isn't anywhere near that simple, the wages that Leno and Bellerin are on, circa £90-100k there are only probably 10 teams in the World who could afford them. Then it comes down to 1 thing, are those players better than what they have already, I would say no.
Dozens and dozens of clubs can afford Martinez and AMN on circa £40k so they are way more saleable assets.
Wages have been a massive hinderance for us, I have no doubt that Sokratis, Mustafi, Kolasinac etc. would have sold ages ago if they were on £40-50k per week.
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I signed up to this forum because I wanted to vent my fury at that £15m Wolves bid in the summer. It felt like daylight robbery even with the financial implications of Coronavirus.
This season I've been very underwhelmed with AMN though, there's a sloppiness that crept into his play that I really don't like. I'm more and more coming to the conclusion that he's going to be a jack of all trades, John O'Shea type for us long term if he stays.
He doesn't have the technical ability to be a starting CM, he's relatively poor at LB, RB is probably his best position but if you can't nail down that position ahead of a physically shot Bellerin and a decentish back up level RB in Cedric, there's an issue.
He's not a young kid anymore, he needs to show something at this loan spell as I'm losing a bit of patience with him.
There has long been talk of attitude / motivation issues with AMN. I believe he got dropped last season for a spell for these issues.
We're getting near make or break time with him now, either he steps up and pushes on or we should accept a £20m + bid in the summer.
This season I've been very underwhelmed with AMN though, there's a sloppiness that crept into his play that I really don't like. I'm more and more coming to the conclusion that he's going to be a jack of all trades, John O'Shea type for us long term if he stays.
He doesn't have the technical ability to be a starting CM, he's relatively poor at LB, RB is probably his best position but if you can't nail down that position ahead of a physically shot Bellerin and a decentish back up level RB in Cedric, there's an issue.
He's not a young kid anymore, he needs to show something at this loan spell as I'm losing a bit of patience with him.
There has long been talk of attitude / motivation issues with AMN. I believe he got dropped last season for a spell for these issues.
We're getting near make or break time with him now, either he steps up and pushes on or we should accept a £20m + bid in the summer.
Hit the nail on the head with this. People don't realise 60k plus is massive massive money, and only a handful of clubs in Europe can pay that, as you say. Covid only magnifies this as well.
On top of that, we give poor players that sort of money, we are never going to sell them.
I'd take a guess the majority of players Liverpool sold for good money will have been on not much more than 50k pw each.
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