Remember when we would argue over Giroud and whether or not he was a donkey?
Good times.
Good times.
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Alexandre Lacazette: 2019/20 Performances
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Country: Wales
That stat that @Furious posted a few pages back has floored me actually.
Theo perhaps one of the most underrated Arsenal players of the modern era. Carried the team on his shoulders in the season post RvP in a way Cesc or Alexis probably never could.
Theo perhaps one of the most underrated Arsenal players of the modern era. Carried the team on his shoulders in the season post RvP in a way Cesc or Alexis probably never could.
Furious
Emery Gone, Telly Back On
Cheers mate, whenever you want more groundbreaking stats, hit me up.
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Since you asked @BigPoppaPump :
After three seasons of Lacazette I can say with confidence that neither’s productivity is/was consistently good enough to be the leading man here.
Giroud was obviously a better target man and aerial threat, and was a great impact sub from the bench. On the flip side Lacazette is stronger technically and much more useful in possession. His big weakness is that he doesn’t have the physicality to impose himself on PL defences, which is also Giroud’s big advantage over him.
I don’t agree with @hydrofluoric acid ’s stamina point. Giroud had big stamina issues of his own, which is one of the reasons he was so much more effective from the bench, while Laca’s stamina issues are overblown. Hydro’s also definitely wrong about their defensive workrates. You could never build a pressing system around Giroud while Lacazette, for all his faults, works his socks off defensively.
Overall, I think Lacazette is the better footballer and he is much more suited to leading the line for a top club which wants to play an expansive game given his technical ability, mentality and defensive workrate. However, I will happily accept that he is not as large an upgrade on Giroud as I was hoping for, and I have serious doubts as to whether he has the physical capability to ever truly excel in the Prem. Would definitely be in favour of a decent trade if we could arrange it.
Country: Wales
We’ve just evolved it.
I’ve noticed that if you bring up Giroud or David Luiz in any thread you can cause a 10 page argument straight away.
Furious
Emery Gone, Telly Back On
So, what's the verdict? Was he or not?
In his 1st season he definitely was, that 1st miss vs Sunderland is installed into my memory for ever I think.
Though he improved over time, and the technical ability for a big guy became more evident, and was used as decent barndoor for link up play and such.
Never good enough to lead the line for us though.
Solid player but we needed better.
His goal drought in the 2015/16 season was the second-largest reason we missed out on the title (after our failure to sign a proper CM the previous summer).
It's the "Luiz Suarez Release Clause Effect". I've written a peer reviewed paper aboutit. Got me huge grant money.
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Riou
In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over
Country: Northern Ireland
Player:Gabriel
Top 5 seasons by Arsenal players since 1992/1993...
1.Thierry Henry...2003/2004.
2.Dennis Bergkamp...1997/1998.
3.Robert Pires...2001/2002.
4.Alexandre Lacazette...2018/2019.
5.Olivier Giroud...2015/2016.
...facts don't lie, Laca > Giroud...just though.
1.Thierry Henry...2003/2004.
2.Dennis Bergkamp...1997/1998.
3.Robert Pires...2001/2002.
4.Alexandre Lacazette...2018/2019.
5.Olivier Giroud...2015/2016.
...facts don't lie, Laca > Giroud...just though.
Country: Wales
Don't start it again, you'll ruin my up to date data set!
UpTheGunnerz
Vrei sa pleci dar una una iei
Player:Elneny
Poor Laca, scores a gorgeous goal and gets turded on like he was in 120 days of Sodom
Marjorie
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To replace who?
Marjorie
Thread Monopolizer
No Ramsey 13/14?
Country: Iceland
Is Ramsey our best quinary striker of all time?
balthazar
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just no. you can safely delete number 4 and 5 on your list.
Van Persie 2011-2012, Fabregas 2009-2010.
Our options were Cazorla, Coquelin, Ramsey, Wilshere, Arteta, and Flamini.
Cazorla and Coquelin were good together but each limited in their own respects. Ramsey played RW at the time. Wilshere had a massive injury coming into the season. And Arteta and Flamini were clearly passed it. That's an extremely thin and limited set of options, which was reflected in the fact that we collapsed once Cazorla was injured. It got so bad we had to experiment with Chambers in midfield.
Thing is so many of us saw it coming, we were begging for a midfielder in the summer. And all we got was f*cking Cech
That was a legendarily catastrophic summer.
BigPoppaPump
Reeling from Laca & Kos nightmares
Yeah I feel like I should show some appreciation to Lacazette for the goal well taken. No need to hate all the time.
Country: England
Player:Saliba
That summer we had midfielders Cazorla, Ramsey, and Wilshere back in training, with Coquelin or Arteta as DM. Back up with Flamini. That's 6 plus Ox and Özil as advanced options. Pretty good by todays standards.
Jack cracked his left fibula in a training incident a few days before the transfer window closed. By the end of November, Coquelin, Cazorla and Arteta all had lengthy injuries. All those posters who said Wenger should have seen that coming and bought yet another midfielder for the squad were talking boll*cks.
Riou
In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over
Country: Northern Ireland
Player:Gabriel
Wilshere couldn't be relied upon by 15/16 due to his injuries, Arteta and Flamini were past it and Ramsey had moved more towards an attacking midfielder by 2015...we only had 2 you could trust in Santi and Coq...why is it so hard for you to admit Arsène made a mistake, he doesn't make him not a great manager for us?
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