UEL R32 1st Leg: Olympiacos v Arsenal | Thursday, February 20 | KO: 20:00 GMT | BT Sport

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by American_Gooner, Feb 17, 2020.

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Match Prediction

Poll closed Feb 20, 2020.
  1. Arsenal Win

    65.7%
  2. Draw

    28.6%
  3. Olympiacos Win

    5.7%
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  1. thierrytheking14

    thierrytheking14 Well-Known Member

    Saying he's 'crap' a few pages ago would support an agenda lad.

    He's underperforming and hes not a top level striker but he's hardly crap.
     
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  2. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Bum Squad CEO

    Don’t you support Atletico?
     
  3. Wrighty4eva

    Wrighty4eva Well-Known Member

    So stating a fact is agenda now on AM, I was a big laca supporter back two years ago, but I'm sorry he's simply not good enough=crap.
     
  4. GoonerJeeves

    GoonerJeeves Up The Terriers

    Yet another clean sheet. Big Mustafi in charge.
     
  5. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    Good result. We've lost here with much better teams than this one.

    Leno saved us but Saka, Mustafi and Sokratis deserve honourable mentions.

    To play two strikers out on the wing isn't working. There's no one to get the ball to them.
     
  6. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks



    We're even passing the xG test with flying colours now. :drool:
     
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  7. thierrytheking14

    thierrytheking14 Well-Known Member

    So if someone isn't good enough to be considered top level they're crap?
     
  8. RandomHero84

    RandomHero84 Well-Known Member

    That's a really tough away game, and a very decent result. The clean sheet run is not a coincidence. We look a lot more stable.

    Luiz was really good I thought, and mustafi has turned things around thus far, but for the odd ****ty pass. He doesn't have my trust yet, I'm not an idiot, but I'm happy for us and him with how it's going.

    Saka is really impressive. Love his composure, and surprisingly solid at the back when he had to be.

    Laca is frustrating as hell, but I'm glad he's got 2 on the bounce. With confidence he's still an asset.

    Don't like seeing Auba out wide, but i kinda see why it's happening. Problem is he just isn't good enough on the ball to be anything other than the guy on the end of the chances we create (which needs to be more). Didn't particularly rate guendouzi, another hit or miss performance.
     
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  9. Wrighty4eva

    Wrighty4eva Well-Known Member

    Basically, I'll word it better for you if you woud like, below average. Is that less agenda driven ?.
     
  10. morpho

    morpho #ArtetaOut = Permanent Ban

    Unbeaten since last decade
     
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  11. thierrytheking14

    thierrytheking14 Well-Known Member

    :lol: ok...

    Im not against selling Lacazette this summer and he's not a top striker but let's be realistic about things, aye?

    Players aren't either 'crap' or 'class'. It's like being back in primary school with labels like that.
     
  12. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    Martinelli has been very good for us this season, but Saka has even performed a level above that...outstanding from a teenager, playing out of position.
     
  13. fransgooner

    fransgooner Well-Known Member

    It's an agenda because even after he scored there are posts bashing him and that he should have scored more. Whether it's a tap in or not, goal's a goal and his goal is what has won us the match. I can see like anyone else that he's gone through a rough couple of months but goals are what he needs and his confidence is coming back, and I can't help but feel happy for him all things considered, rather than "he's still ****, even though he scored, should have scored more."
    If he was inept, Arteta wouldn't think twice with not playing him at all.
     
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  14. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Knows a guy who knows an ITK at Bristol Trusted

    True.
     
  15. HBL

    HBL Well-Known Member

    Maybe, didn't offer much in attack though!
     
  16. Hleb's Sirush

    Hleb's Sirush Well-Known Member

    It does start to feel like an agenda when for example Nketiah scored exactly same kind of goal against Bournemouth and I didn't hear one person say it was a tap in. All you saw was that Laca would have missed that chance. People have (rightfully) been complaining about Laca not gettin into dangerous positions. When he does that and occasionally misses the goal all you hear is that he is **** and just getting into dangerous positions isn't enough. Even when he scores like tonight it is being downplayed because Auba and Saka done the real work and Laca just took credit for it.
     
  17. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    Guendouzi has good potential and should stay but sometimes he does show signs of his immaturity still. Willock I don't see much talent in. Once we get proper midfielders in the summer I don't think he'll get a look in and may be sold.
     
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  18. andeoch1

    andeoch1 Active Member

    he is still a very raw youngster, with lots to learn. I’m not a huge fan, but I think he can become a very good mid fielder. Maybe, not with The Arsenal though. Some senior members of the club need to take him under their wing .
     
  19. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    Yes I saw a stat after Pool lost, so seeing as we haven't been beaten since then it must still stand.
     
  20. progman07

    progman07 Well-Known Member

    I would gladly replace both of them in the squad to be honest. I love Willock, but he doesn't seem to be at the level we aspire to. Good bits here and there, and obviously lots of passion, but overall that is a position we could do much better with.

    Guendouzi, I don't see what kind of midfielder he is going to be. He has close to zero end product, close to zero willingness to defend, and we can probably find a better/stronger/faster/more disciplined midfielder who circulates the ball. He has talent, but he doesn't compensate for his lack of physicality with creativity, nor with discpline right now. Hope he proves me wrong though.

    Take Xhaka for example, he is a fairly limited player due to his lack of speed and ability to carry the ball, but his character, positional awareness, and passing range kind of compensates.
     
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