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Your current top 10 Premier League managers

Blood on the Tracks

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You could make a case for any of Pep, Klopp, Fergie, Arsène or Mourinho tbh.

Arsène I'm putting down as the guy who revolutionized English football the most, I think you'd struggle to argue against that.

Best, if I'm trying to be objective, I'm probably going for Fergie. Domination over a couple of decades, football was generally front foot and aggressive, brought through a good amount of youngsters, got some really averages players performing at a level he had no right too, ruthless in rejuvenating sides before they declined . And maybe most importantly the trophies are there!

What's weird is Fergie, Arsène and Pep would be my top 3 but if you're looking at weaknesses, for all of them it's probably underachieving in the CL.
 

MauveGunner

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SAF & Wenger are clear for me tbf. What they did for Arsenal and Manchester United is just phenomenal. They shaped the clubs to the powerhouses they are today. Both with different styles, but without them the PL would not be what it is today. Klopp completes the top 3 for me, for the same reason Wenger & SAF: he has shaped Liverpool back into the international powerhouse they used to be.

Mou and Pep are class managers too, but Chelsea & City are cheat codes. Couple that with a great mind, and the succes will come.

Internationally, I say Don Carlo might be the best one I've ever seen. How he adapted at each club he's been to is just amazing. He sees the squad, and builds a team and uses a tactic he seems fit with that squad.
 

Dokaka

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But there's only one manager in the whole history of modern football who we saw working with money, and then working with teams that he had to buy all players from sales . . and yet his standards hardly dropped at all over a 20 year period. An insane record. And you know who that is. And it wasn't Pep, Mourinho or Ferguson.

Mourinho won the most coveted trophy in club football with Porto and Inter Milan, that to me puts him in the "can do it without insane financial backing" category, at least clear over someone like Pep. He also got 100 points with Real Madrid and beat Pep's peak Barca team to the title, a gigantic achievement in itself.

In terms of impressive career achievements, I'd honestly put Mourinho above everyone. He's the only manager on the list with such variety to his successes.

I think Wenger is the person on the list that had the biggest positive impact on football in general.
 
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Makingtrax

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Mourinho won the most coveted trophy in club football with Porto and Inter Milan, that to me puts him in the "can do it without insane financial backing" category, at least clear over someone like Pep. He also got 100 points with Real Madrid and beat Pep's peak Barca team to the title, a gigantic achievement in itself.

In terms of impressive career achievements, I'd honestly put Mourinho above everyone. He's the only manager on the list with such variety to his successes.

I think Wenger is the person on the list that had the biggest positive impact on football in general.
Lol. Not even close. Mourinho got a huge injection of capital at Porto and has only recently been beaten by Pep this year as the highest spending manager of all time. He’s a cheque book manager. We saw Mourinho working at Sp**s a club spending 5th and he couldn’t make the top 4 even once. And fired by Roma for a win rate of only 49%, the lowest of his career. They came 6th twice and were 9th when he was sacked.

I can only imagine how bad he’d have been putting up with Wenger’s financial limitations. And he had the cheek to call Wenger a specialist in failure when he had club sponsored by an oil baron. The man’s a total sh!t.
 

ArsenesCoatMaker

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Best, if I'm trying to be objective, I'm probably going for Fergie. Domination over a couple of decades, football was generally front foot and aggressive, brought through a good amount of youngsters, got some really averages players performing at a level he had no right too, ruthless in rejuvenating sides before they declined . And maybe most importantly the trophies are there!

Fergie had a couple of cheat codes

1) By far the richest club in English football. He had transfers 3 times as much as Arsenal's when he was signing Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Veron, RVP, Berbatov, Van Nisteroy and not far off that with CR7, Carrick and Van Nisteroy. It gave him a great spine until his last title. He had strikers way above the competition with CR7, RVP, Rooney, Van Nisteroy, Berbatov, Michael Owen, Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke, Teddy Sherringham, Tevez,

2) Maybe the best British youth players of all time with Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Butt, Neville brothers, Lee Sharpe, Mark Robins.

3) His biggest competitor having to break even in the transfer market for a decade
 

Riou

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Based on that question (just based on what they did in the England) it's 100% ...

1. Ferguson
2. Guardiola
3. Wenger
4. Mourinho
5. Klopp
 

Juan Matas Beard

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Fergie had a couple of cheat codes

2) Maybe the best British youth players of all time with Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Butt, Neville brothers, Lee Sharpe, Mark Robins.

Calling that a cheat code is the biggest compliment you can give Sir Alex. He set up an infrastructure to recruit some of the best talent in the UK. When FIFA set up restrictions on Geographical recruitment in the UK we didn't get the same level of success. At his earlier United management days, he was pretty much five jobs in one. He was the Sporting Director, Manager, Coach, Head of Recruitment and Technical Director. It's why losing him is something we're still struggling to recover from.

But for those you mentioned, he would scout each of these players, meet them, their families and his coaching and man management is the reason they have such longevity and winning mentality year after year.

With respect, a Giggs and Scholes at another club wouldn't have the same level of success as they aren't fueled the same way to win year after year, he knew how to get the best out of them and was probably the best manager in terms of squeezing every ounce of talent from players.

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Dokaka

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was probably the best manager in terms of squeezing every ounce of talent from players.

Over a long period, absolutely. I'll never forget how he arrogantly won that FA Cup quarter final against Arsenal with a meme midfield:

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I mean ffs :lol: That midfield was borderline Championship level.

I think the criticism of Ferguson having access to top level talent due to Man Utd's financial muscle is fair, but it's somewhat dishonest to suggest all his success was based on that. That infamous 8-2 game had a bunch of cloggers in the starting XI as well.
 

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Best managers in the world right now.

 

jones

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Over a long period, absolutely. I'll never forget how he arrogantly won that FA Cup quarter final against Arsenal with a meme midfield:

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I mean ffs :lol: That midfield was borderline Championship level.

I think the criticism of Ferguson having access to top level talent due to Man Utd's financial muscle is fair, but it's somewhat dishonest to suggest all his success was based on that. That infamous 8-2 game had a bunch of cloggers in the starting XI as well.
We lost a gut wrenching CL Ro16 return leg to the best team ever just a few days before this game, spent most of that second half a man down and still almost got through to the next round if it weren't for your boy's atrocious first touch.

We on the other hand had post injury Djorou, Denilson and 20 year old hapless Gibbs among others starting, can think of 10+ more embarrassing showings in just the last 4 years and 3 months off the top of my head.
 

jones

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Lol. Not even close. Mourinho got a huge injection of capital at Porto and has only recently been beaten by Pep this year as the highest spending manager of all time. He’s a cheque book manager. We saw Mourinho working at Sp**s a club spending 5th and he couldn’t make the top 4 even once. And fired by Roma for a win rate of only 49%, the lowest of his career. They came 6th twice and were 9th when he was sacked.

I can only imagine how bad he’d have been putting up with Wenger’s financial limitations. And he had the cheek to call Wenger a specialist in failure when he had club sponsored by an oil baron. The man’s a total sh!t.
Not to mention how literally every single time he gets a job he gets himself sacked after three seasons max.

@Dokaka saying he won it with Inter like they're some poor club lol. Sure Mourinho won it all there but destroyed their finances in the process to a level it took them 10 years and a new owner to get back to their level before him.
 

ArsenesCoatMaker

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Not to mention how literally every single time he gets a job he gets himself sacked after three seasons max.

@Dokaka saying he won it with Inter like they're some poor club lol. Sure Mourinho won it all there but destroyed their finances in the process to a level it took them 10 years and a new owner to get back to their level before him.

A windfall of the Ibrahimovic transfer fee and Etoo who was arguably better also helped. They signed top players and had great veterans at the club.
 

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