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Carabao Cup 4th Round: Liverpool v Arsenal | Wednesday October 30, 19:30 GMT | Sky Sports

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by American_Gooner, Oct 27, 2019.

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Who will go through to the 5th Round?

Poll closed Oct 30, 2019.
  1. Arsenal

    27.9%
  2. Liverpool

    72.1%
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  1. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    shut the f**k up Klopp you celebrate the win like you win the CL.
     
  2. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    At the basics? Yes
     
  3. redanddread

    redanddread The stone that the builders refuse

    You know, he took off his regulars and brought on no names and we still couldn't do it. I remember thinking he's given it up. Emery's a timid ****ing coach that should be nowhere near this club right now. sorry to sound so angry but I am.
     
  4. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    How didn't Pepe get subbed on in the second half when they looked primed for counter attacks, how did Lucas get brought off when we were defending a narrow lead...why isn't news filtering through of Raul and Edu walking out of the changing room, with blood on their hands saying Emery has decided to take an extended vacation, and until further notice Freddie is in charge...so many obvious things that needed to happen.
     
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  5. Pepes blue pill

    Pepes blue pill Well-Known Member

    Tbh its really hard to expect the defenders to do much when there is zero protection in front, the biggest problem at the club is our midfield and that is because of one man, shown by the fact whoever plays there its still no existent
     
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  6. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    both teams start with youngsters liverpool started with experienced midfield Origi Milner Gomez hardly kids.
     
  7. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Men's Rights Activist

    Problem is when our transfers go wrong, they're so bad nobody else wants to sign them off us so we get lumbered:lol: Think we are moving in the right direction with the squad but it will certainly take another summer to get it right. For the time being, Emery needs to bog off or do better. At the moment, we're not even maximising our stronger areas, not even close.
     
  8. Pepes blue pill

    Pepes blue pill Well-Known Member

    We had a two goal lead twice, we had experince on the bench and they didnt, it was fairly obvious keita n ox wouldnt play 90mins, all you had was stay tight n the bench alone would have won you the game, maybe the worst game management I have ever seen n thats a big statement for any arsenal fan to make
     
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  9. Hleb's Sirush

    Hleb's Sirush Well-Known Member

    Does that mean our defence would improve if we simply bought Sheffield United's defenders?
     
  10. Hleb's Sirush

    Hleb's Sirush Well-Known Member

    Yes the biggest problem area is the midfield but we are almost equally bad in all areas. There is no cohesion anywhere. That is why there is no point trying to evaluate any player at the moment. It is all just a big mess.
     
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  11. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    Welcome back bro!

    Emery's another matter altogether. His team selections and substitutions are just bizarre. His tactics change constantly.

    But Emery isn't telling Sokratis to go to ground and make rash tackles, or Luiz to pull shirts, Mustafi to not mark players, or Xhaka to make a late slide tackle in the box.
     
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  12. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Dude, we don’t have a single defender who can make headed clearances more than 10 yards or mark properly at set pieces.

    The game changed defensively for United in the 3 years they had Ferdinand, Vidic and Van Der Sar, Chelsea when they had Gallas, Terry and Cech and Pool with VVD, Alison, and Fabinho.

    Their systems remained the same. I think we’ve just had weak defenders for so long at the back some of you have got used to them.

    With van Dyke in this team over Mustafi we still leak silly goals but get at least 10 more points a season.
     
  13. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    I blame Xhaka.
     
  14. Pepes blue pill

    Pepes blue pill Well-Known Member

    It is all on emery
     
  15. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    I blame Macey.
     
  16. Steps

    Steps Well-Known Member

    Missed the game live as I had some stuff to do for work. Just got done watching/fast-forwarding the DVR. Some thoughts:

    1. Kinda felt bad for Mustafi's OG. Woulda been a lot more irritated had it come off his front leg, but coming off the knee of his trailing leg like that is a real kick in the pants.

    2. Martinelli. Holy ****, this kid is something else. Just gets better and better every game.

    3. Mesut. That assist for AMN was absolutely beautiful. Looked to be involved a good deal on the offensive side of things.

    4. Joe. ****ing. Willock. That goal left my jaw on the floor. Kid is something special. Thought he looked good most of the game.

    Didn't bother to watch the pens as I had already seen the end scoreline by that point. Sounds like Tierney rallying the troops was special. Good on him. I hope he called his mum after the game to let her know how we did.

    Really don't understand the sub of Torreira. Had a few passes go astray but I think overall he had a good match. If rumors about him crying when he came off are true, then I am even more upset. Emery been absolutely crushing this guy's confidence the past few months and this doesn't help. ****ing turd.
     
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  17. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Pretty strange question.

    They are effective as a defensive unit in the context of how they are set up to play as a team, ie compact, defending deep, absorbing pressure (hence being particularly strong in the air) and hitting teams on the counter.

    Arsenal are trying to play a lot more with the ball so our defenders need to have composure, concentration and discipline but a bit more quality on the ball too.

    The profile of defenders we have doesn’t fit all that, nor necessarily do Sheffield United’s. It’s not a binary question of defenders being better than each other but having the right balance of strengths across your defensive unit.

    We are poor physically, lack leadership and lack discipline. This hasn’t changed since Sol Campbell disappeared at half time.
     
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  18. Gursha

    Gursha Well-Known Member

    The intelligence from Niles to halt his run when he saw Özil was in a better position to get it was as impressive as the actual Özil assist...
    and very underrated.. everyone just see the amazing Özil assist
     
  19. Make

    Make Active Member

    When Özil touches the ball, I remembered that this team need it. He has all the players in her mind, he is a world class player and Özil MUST play every match.
     
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  20. Steps

    Steps Well-Known Member

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