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Prediction

Sevilla 1-1 Arsenal

 

[boonthegoon]

There’s no doubt that signings are always a club effort, scouts, data analysts, director of football, contract negotiators, director of football, manager and CEO are all involved at some stage. To what extent each is responsible for which players is never truly known.

Nobody knew the amount of influence of stat DNA and Gazidis etc a few years ago but fans like a simplistic story, Arsène was to blame for Mustafi, and Arteta is to be praised for Ødegaard. All part of the established narratives.

You were the one making this simple narrative (Unai for martinelli) and you are calling that out yourself This is what @SA Gunner is trying to point

 

[Makingtrax]

You were the one making this simple narrative (Unai for martinelli) and you are calling that out yourself This is what @SA Gunner is trying to point

You guys are way too sensitive. Martinelli was indeed signed during Unai's reign. But it's likely that Edu made the recommendation.

 

[Macho]

You guys are way too sensitive. Martinelli was indeed signed during Unai's reign. But it's likely that Edu made the recommendation.

Cagigao.

 

[Makingtrax]

Cagigao.

No doubt he scouted him. But there was an article in the Daily Mail about Edu's involvement. It comes back to what I was saying about multiple people being involved in transfer deals.

 

[Macho]

No doubt he scouted him. But there was an article in the Daily Mail about Edu's involvement. It comes back to what I was saying about multiple people being involved in transfer deals.

I don't think there was anything wrong with what you said just now, I think crediting Emery with Martinelli a while ago some had a problem with.

 

[Makingtrax]

I don't think there was anything wrong with what you said just now, I think crediting Emery with Martinelli a while ago some had a problem with.

The problem I had today was praising Saka, Martinelli and Salibi for their performance. Lol.

 

[SA Gunner]

There’s no doubt that signings are always a club effort, scouts, data analysts, director of football, contract negotiators, director of football, manager and CEO are all involved at some stage. To what extent each is responsible for which players is never truly known.

Nobody knew the amount of influence of stat DNA and Gazidis etc a few years ago but fans like a simplistic story, Arsène was to blame for Mustafi, and Arteta is to be praised for Ødegaard. All part of the established narratives.

You can apply this to every single signing we make Trax, yes even from the Wenger days.

And that is fundamentally the point I’m making. You are showing your colours by not wanting to credit Arteta directly for the signings made. Talking about Unai Emery signing Saliba but the scouts, analysts, signing someone like Jesus for example.

And it’s not about being sensitive either. It’s ok to have a particular bias for or against a manager or person at the club. We all do it and some carry specific agendas here as well.

 

[Makingtrax]

You can apply this to every single signing we make Trax, yes even from the Wenger days.

And that is fundamentally the point I’m making. You are showing your colours by not wanting to credit Arteta directly for the signings made. Talking about Unai Emery signing Saliba but the scouts, analysts, signing someone like Jesus for example.

And it’s not about being sensitive either. It’s ok to have a particular bias for or against a manager or person at the club. We all do it and some carry specific agendas here as well.

No manager specifically himself signs any player. Surely that's a given. Saliba was signed during Unai's period in charge, but various people were actually involved in the move. There was an article in the Express saying that Fabregas, who'd just moved to Monaco was involved in the recommendation to buy him. "The former Spain international admits he had a conversation with an ex-Arsenal scout around the time the Gunners signed the defender."

 

[Tnegs]

This was a huge win for us and we’re looking good for the knockout stages. We’re gettint results like a big team even if the performances aren’t great yet.