Life after Wenger | Ornstein: Arsenal set to appoint Unai Emery

[Altsu]

Other managers when we appoint Arteta:

 

[say yes]

Coming round to this remarkably quickly.

Underrated player, great captain, lovely quotes. Transformed Man City last season. Something fresh. What’s not to get excited about?

 

[Stannis]

You just have to laugh if we do actually hire him though. He’s theoretically the absolute worst appointment we could make.

Anyone with any experience of managing a professional football team is, on paper, a better appointment than Arteta. Let that sink in.

 

[RammiXP]

This club never fails to disappoint anymore.

We are a farce. Such a massive gamble if the speculation around Arteta is true! I hope it works for the sake of Arsenal but I think this will be a horrible situation.

 

[celestis]

You just have to laugh if we do actually hire him though. He’s theoretically the absolute worst appointment we could make.

Anyone with any experience of managing a professional football team is, on paper, a better appointment than Arteta. Let that sink in.

I’d rather hire Darren Moore ffs.

Feel like joining AFTV after reading this

 

[Garrincha]

Coming round to this remarkably quickly as well.

Will be funny as **** watching Mustafi make Arteta & Alonso go bald.

 

[FreakySami]

I think change is imminent in regards to manager appointments. We will have less and less traditional managers and more and more coaches that take on managerial roles.

 

[jameske]

The funniest outcome is we appoint Arteta and he has just has us playing Moyes-style hoofball.

 

[SuperGoon]

Everyone here is way too negative. Pep & Wenger vouched for him.


Two of the very best. He learned how to fail under Wenger. He learned how to win under Pep. Now he'll combine them together and learn how to succeed in the race for top 4. BELIEVE.

 

[Garrincha]

Everyone here is way too negative. Pep & Wenger vouched for him.


Two of the very best. He learned how to fail under Wenger. He learned how to win under Pep. Now he'll combine them together and learn how to succeed in the race for top 4. BELIEVE.

My friends would vouch im a great lover.

 

[celestis]

Thought about it a lot and I reckon there's only one rational reason for appointing Arteta: the board want to transition away from a traditional management structure.

They want a structure in which the manager is less important; more of a head coach who works alongside a head of recruitment and a director of football etc. Arteta would be a good choice in that regard. Much easier to manage given his lack of experience / ego. Knows the club well, supposedly up there with the new brand of forward thinking coaches.

Could be a great idea. As much as I'd prefer a top manager coming in, developing a management structure which is less contingent on there being somebody special sitting in the hot-seat would partly insulate the club from appointing a dud. Would certainly be somewhat novel and bold too, even if other clubs are also inevitably moving towards such a position.

Still think it's the wrong move when there's someone like Allegri available, but transitioning the club away from the Ferguson / Wenger models of success would certainly leave us less subject to the twists and turns of managerial fortune. The actual manager becomes less important than the (hopefully competent) structures surrounding them. That doesn't just go for Arteta, but also whichever coach we later get to replace him and so-on.

Fits in with both what Gazidis was saying about taking a bold path, and the backroom appointments we've been making 0ver the last year.

That's probably the only reasoning that would convince me that we're making a semi-competent move. Certainly can't compare Arteta's CV to any of the other candidates and I'm not convinced at all by the argument that he would be cheaper. Even if he'd command slightly lower wages, the amount saved would be a drop in the ocean compared to the financial benefits a successful appointment would bring.

Yeah think you are spot on , a few things though less twists and turns for sure but also less upside . In this said structure ,there's more importance on the three guys above the coach . Honestly what do we know about them ? I don't even have a clue what Ivan does . Sven is a talented scout but he's in a completely different position now . Who reviews them ?

 

[Gooner416]

**** like this really pisses me off. We stood by Ramsey through thick and thin, and he potentially might shaft us by running down his contract. Why can't he just sign an extension on improved terms and we sell him getting us the maximum fee possible? He owes us that much at least.

Sounds eerily similar to a **** who wrote a nice letter about the club.

 

[say yes]

Yeah think you are spot on , a few things though less twists and turns for sure but also less upside . In this said structure ,there's more importance on the three guys above the coach . Honestly what do we know about them ? I don't even have a clue what Ivan does . Sven is a talented scout but he's in a completely different position now . Who reviews them ?

Cheers. And yeah I agree we don’t know very much about them (and particularly Raul) at all yet. Reckon we’ll get some more clarification when the new manager slots into place.

 

[Stannis]

The Captain is going down with his ship

 

[celestis]

The Captain is going down with his ship

Personally hope he's right

 

[Stannis]

Personally hope he's right

so do I, have a gif waiting for it. The only reason I have some hope is that there is a face and a name behind the twitter handle. It isn't like most ITK trolls who make a new account and then delete it. Also the massive staff changes at the Emirates leaves me wondering.
If he is wrong though the **** he will receive in the Emirates will something else


(note for those that need it spelled out, don't give the kid too much grief if Arteta happens)

 

[celestis]

so do I, have a gif waiting for it. The only reason I have some hope is that there is a face and a name behind the twitter handle. It isn't like most ITK trolls who make a new account and then delete it.
If he is wrong the **** he will receive in the Emirates will something else


(note for those that need it spelled out, don't give the kid too much grief if Arteta happens)

Yes that is a really good point . He obviously believes what he says .

 

[Slartibartfast]

(note for those that need it spelled out, don't give the kid too much grief if Arteta happens)

The only ones I'll give grief if Arteta happens are Ivan Gazidis and Josh Kroenke.

 

[Longy]

From Arteta's point of view.....

It would be absolute crazy for him to jump in and manage a club like Arsenal this early on. Even worse given who the previous manager was and the position we are in atm.

There is just way too much risk involved that could shoot his reputation down before its actually started.


From Arsenals point of view......

There is still a divided fanbase, it is still toxic toward the club. The last few weeks have just papered over the cracks,. Hiring an inexperienced manager will set it off all again especially when we don't have any goodies in the bag to hand out.

It has to be a biggish name.


Getting Arteta in just makes no sense from any angle.
I can see him coming in as a coach with the prospect of managing down the track.
Just not now.

 

[ArtetaCognition]

The Captain is going down with his ship

Always love reading the logic of these teenage Twitter virgins. We announced Wenger's departure early to appease Allegri - a man that we apparently haven't even had formal talks with - and in order to aid Juventus' search for a manager. Um, okay then.

"Hello Arsène. You're fired. We wanted to do it now so that Allegri, a man that we have not had any contact with so far, is aware as early as possible. Thanks for your service."

Hilarity, man.