Are we hit rock bottom now ? Or rock bottom is up ahead still waiting for us ?
Agree wholeheartedly with this post.Wenger wasn't on the pitch tonight. Gabriel, Ox, Walcott, Gibbs, Coq are not good enough and you can add Ramsey to that as well. They make simple mistakes every game and it costs us, they're injury prone, and not consistent.
Yes, you can blame Wenger for for sticking with them, yes Wenger's time's up.
But even Alf Ramsey himself couldn't turn those players into a team that will do anything in Europe or the league. The do not have the quality.
Will listen to the podcast, but cannot say I will enjoy it. I don't mind when we as Arsenal fans slag our own club, but when it comes from supporters from other teams or from pundits I usually just get angry. I understand and even agree with their points but **** is it hard to stomach. That's why I have a lot of time for the guys on Arsenal Fan TV but cannot stand the likes of the Neville brothers.The full podcast is enlightening. Even the English journos covering us are embarrassed.
Will listen to the podcast, but cannot say I will enjoy it. I don't mind when we as Arsenal fans slag our own club, but when it comes from supporters from other teams or from pundits I usually just get angry. I understand and even agree with their points but **** is it hard to stomach. That's why I have a lot of time for the guys on Arsenal TV but cannot stand the likes of the Neville brothers.
I fear now that some of our elite players will walk after this, they won't take defeats like this.This loss has probably somewhat damaged our reputation as one of the "bigger teams", it was pretty humiliating. We need to come back strong in the second leg and win the match. Maybe not on aggregate, but any win would at least show we're still a force to be reckoned with.
This loss has probably somewhat damaged our reputation as one of the "bigger teams", it was pretty humiliating. We need to come back strong in the second leg and win the match. Maybe not on aggregate, but any win would at least show we're still a force to be reckoned with.
We've still always been a very respected side though, and expected to be on the up. Wenger was under less scrutiny and seen in a better light than I expect he's about to be. With this loss, we've basically cemented out reputation as "the littlest of the big boys". Something really needs to change now.We stopped being a force to be reckoned with long ago, a pride salvaging win in the second leg won't change that.
They were walking since long ago. Where have you been?I fear now that some of our elite players will walk after this, they won't take defeats like this.
This guy makingtrax seems to forget we struggle to beat teams that cost less than ours. Pochettino would not lose this way. And starting Özil has nothing to do with money but tactical ineptitude.What part of, 'You can blame Wenger for sticking with those players', don't you understand.
And nearly all those players in the list cost peanuts in football terms. And it shows.
I fear now that some of our elite players will walk after this, they won't take defeats like this.
You think stoke would have folded like a cheap suit last night?How many times are they going to have to beat us 5-1 to change this statement of yours?
There is not a single player in our team that would start in that Bayern XI. Sanchez might, and he's by far and away our best player.
Sad isn't it, he is clearly deluded. Dont waste ur time, its never Wenger's fault, its all squad costs.We didnt capitulate simply because Bayern have a better side. If you truly believe that's as deep as it goes, then I'm at a loss. We;ve done this against inferior opposition recently at the same stage ffs! Monaco 3-1, AC Milan 4-0. How many examples do you need?
Tbh Tottenham were even more pathetic this CL seasonThis guy makingtrax seems to forget we struggle to beat teams that cost less than ours. Pochettino would not lose this way. And starting Özil has nothing to do with money but tactical ineptitude.
You beat me to it!!!!!What elite players?