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Unai Emery: Adios

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Beast Incarnate

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Wtf are You on about? Can we just stop with **** posting? Every game somebody comes up with some kind of morronic conclusions. Its getting embarassing. Emery is a top manager. He is getting used to a lot of things, has his down sides, but somehow im pretty ****ing sure he has more understanding of the game than You do. I have no idea how someone who I presume has more than 12 years can say he is way in over his head. I swer number of the trophies hes won is bigger than the IQ of some of the posters here.

Agreed. That was an absolute calamity of a post.
 

Tom349

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I'd say this is why he's here. Wenger never did this. And I can possibly tell you we aren't better off because Wenger kept those two in and we were no better.

We won 3 FA cups with them in the side and have always been a better side with them in the team. If Emery thinks he can improve on them then thats fine but until such time as he finds a better option than he needs to be able to utilise them.

Not sole cause, but primary. And I said this for Wenger as well. We have bad personnel in the back. Better with Bellerin and Monreal, but still bad.

Personally I don't think we were ever this disorganised defensively and for the most part our troubles were in midfield where teams by passed us with absolute ease. I feel we are not as easily bypassed (mostly due to improved personnel) but in terms of basic defending like covering the full back, tracking runs and keeping a line I see a significant downgrade.
 

Football Manager

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His sitting stars for no reason other than to feed his own ego. You can't possibly tell me we're better off without Özil or Ramsey playing the 10. There is zero justification for the way he is treating them.

Im sick of hearing about our defensive options as if they're the sole cause for all our issues. The defensive set up is just as bad as the options Emery has to work with and so far Emery has only made our defence worse than what it was under Wenger despite committing less numbers forward. Some defensive issues can only be solved through new signings but issues such as not shutting down crosses can be drilled into players and this is something Emery should have been able to drill into players throughout preseason.

If the only way to win is to outscore teams than why are we lining up with 3 at the back and why when given the chance to make a more aggressive sub do you bring on another holding mid in Torreira instead of Ramsey. Who had he been on early I've very confident would have finished the game off a lot sooner given the Fulham had no idea on how to track runs from midfield.
We are better off without Özil and Ramsey because they don’t fit in the emery’s tactics.
Just like drogba and lampard would not fit in guardiola’s tiki taka.
 

Tom349

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We are better off without Özil and Ramsey because they don’t fit in the emery’s tactics.
Just like drogba and lampard would not fit in guardiola’s tiki taka.

Fair ****ing difference between being managed by the GOAT manager and a bloke who is Europa specialist.
 

Tir Na Nog

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Should have told the fans to **** off tbh, or did the shush thing like Mourinho did.
 

Tom349

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Im comparing the situation, not the person. Please have some IQ to understand this.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You make it out as if Emery is so genius and Özil and Ramsey are some how beneath him, when if anything it is the other way around. If you can't manage players off Özil and Ramsey talent then you're worth **** all.
 

pacstud

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Should have told the fans to **** off tbh, or did the shush thing like Mourinho did.
Would have enjoyed it, but I'm loving Emery's PR skills. He's nonplussed at all times. Truly DGAF and is locked in on what he's doing, but still able to just calmly tell the fans to, in short, feck off.

Pretty impressive. I like a manager who doesn't whine and is locked in on what he can control.
 

Tom349

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Should have told the fans to **** off tbh, or did the shush thing like Mourinho did.

This just further pisses me off. You already have three holding mids on the field and one of them can't press Seri and deny him time on the ball? We're playing at home to Fulham and our manager is making reactionary changes like that.
 

Beast Incarnate

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You have no idea what you're talking about. You make it out as if Emery is so genius and Özil and Ramsey are some how beneath him, when if anything it is the other way around. If you can't manage players off Özil and Ramsey talent then you're worth **** all.

World Cup winning manager Low has struggled to get consistent performances out of Özil.

Wenger gave him freedom to do what he wants and he was still mostly underwhelming.

That's 3 world class managers that couldn't get Özil performing regularly. After a while, you have to hold the players accountable.
 

Tir Na Nog

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This just further pisses me off. You already have three holding mids on the field and one of them can't press Seri and deny him time on the ball? We're playing at home to Fulham and our manager is making reactionary changes like that.

Ramsey provides energy and had fresh legs, also helps in transitions. Also has a tendency to score, like the goal he scored just shortly after the sub was made. We want to keep our shape too we were playing a sort of narrow 4-4-2 in the second half and didn't want one of the 4 midfielders to be pulled out of position trying to mark Seri, hence why Ramsey replacing Laca and doing the job made sense.
 

Tom349

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World Cup winning manager Low has struggled to get consistent performances out of Özil.

Wenger gave him freedom to do what he wants and he was still mostly underwhelming.

That's 3 world class managers that couldn't get Özil performing regularly. After a while, you have to hold the players accountable.

Thats just your opinion. Most people would look at it as Özil winning multiple German player of the year awards, becoming the fastest player in the Premier League history to 50 assist and being a key member of the German World Cup winning team.
 

Tom349

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Ramsey provides energy and had fresh legs, also helps in transitions. Also has a tendency to score, like the goal he scored just shortly after the sub was made. We want to keep our shape too we were playing a sort of narrow 4-4-2 in the second half and didn't want one of the 4 midfielders to be pulled out of position trying to mark Seri, hence why Ramsey replacing Laca and doing the job made sense.

A manager with balls would have sent Ramsey on at half time and the game would have been wrapped up within the the 15 minutes of the second half.
 

pacstud

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A manager with balls would have sent Ramsey on at half time and the game would have been wrapped up within the the 15 minutes of the second half.
Now I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, trolling, both?

C'mon, it's tough if you are just going to troll Emery.
 

Tom349

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That is literally what everyone here is doing.

Yeah but the facts suggest that his opinion is off base and doesn't justify why Emery is using Özil the way he is. I mean you can claim Özil isn't being played because he doesn't work hard enough but that would be bullshit as whilst defensively he is lacking in this area, attacking wise he works harder than anyone else. Then you look at his team mates and the hardest working attacker is Lacazette but he plays less than others who don't work as hard. So what message is Emery trying to send.
 
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