David Luiz: 2019/20 Performances

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by American_Gooner, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. lomekian

    lomekian Well-Known Member

    Luiz is fine in the right system and with the right mix of players around him. We don't have either, but equally we don't have enough centre-backs who can pass at the required level for Arteta's plans.

    If Chambers was fit, Holding fully recovered and Mari hadn't got crocked, we wouldn't need Luiz. But without him, we're one more knock from a parthership of Holding and Zech Medley for the rest of the season.

    I don't have a problem with Luiz for one more year, but he's here for bigger picture reasons than his own ability. Were Saliba a year further on, Luiz would be gone.
     
  2. Garrincha

    Garrincha Wilf Zaha Aficionado

    All the people you mention are employees. Kronke has been on the board with a significant stake since 2008 I believe & KSE in control with majority ownership since 2011.

    Ivan could have been sacked just like Raul now. When Ivan left the club we could have easily kept the same structure & brought in a replacement CEO but go for the cheap option to over-promote internally. Not people that had been successful here but fresh into jobs. Managers & players keep changing but we drop & drop.
     
  3. lomekian

    lomekian Well-Known Member

    Yup. The Kroenke's approach has always been to be loyal to their employees. I think the difference now is Josh is both interested, and unlike Stan actually has been heavily involved in oversight at different sports Franchises.

    When it was just Stan, he clearly didn't know enough about the sport to feel able to go beyond Gazidis and Wenger. No surprise that since Josh turned up and had a good look around, we've had a shed load of changes. There have been some bad hires, but at least the club is no longer set up like its 1990.

    Also, in all fairness, Wenger had earned a lot of credit in the bank, and had too much power, and Stan thought the world of him, so things were never going to change quickly on that front.

    I;m more optimistic long-term, even if I think Raul is dodgy as hell. At least the new structure means he can be sacked without everything falling apart.
     
  4. Shalmaneser V

    Shalmaneser V Well-Known Member

    Think we were better off jogging this clown on and giving his wages to Thiago Silva.
     
  5. lomekian

    lomekian Well-Known Member

    Thiago Silva 2-3 years ago? Amen! Thiago Silva now? No ta. His legs are going and his wages are twice as high.
     
  6. Shalmaneser V

    Shalmaneser V Well-Known Member

    A one legged Thiago Silva would be less inept defensively than Luiz. I hear he’s willing to take a pay cut too. On a free he’s worth bringing in for a season imo.
     
  7. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford

    I realised I don't care because I actually hate this club now.

    I genuinely wish I could support another club if I could and I'm not just saying that.
     
  8. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    You could support a non-English team if you wanted, link up with Mbappe at PSG...but deep down, I don't think you would swap Arsenal for another English team, too many memories growing up...well, unless you became an Arsenal fan like only a few years ago...then you would probably be just like **** this club :lol:
     
  9. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford

    I know I can't leave. One of my friends left Arsenal about 5 years ago for Man City, not sure how he did that.

    I wish I could but I'm stuck here with a manager who gets more compliments on his hair than his actual management ability.
     
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  10. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    Never trust that friend who switched, with anything important to you imo.
     
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  11. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Dishonest To His Federation

    The first kit I got was Liverpool for x-mas when I was like 4 years old because the father and brothers of my mother were Liverpool supporters. My father was an Arsenal supporter and in the end, he won me and my brother over with his interest.

    Might think about switching over to Liverpool for 2-3 years. Just have to find the picture of me and my brother in that kit for my Facebook cover and its done!
     
  12. BigPoppaPump

    BigPoppaPump Could Never Wifey An Opp Thot

    You can’t be a grown man and support Man City, that’s only ok for kids. I can’t take an adult that supports Man City seriously.
     
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  13. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

  14. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Fair play to him then, it shows how much he wants to be here for footballing reasons rather than it being cozy for him in a financial sense. I think he'll still be prone to silly errors, but hopefully he can get his focus back and contribute.
     
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  15. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Thread Merchant

    We're ****ed, aren't we?
     
  16. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    Managers love Xhaka. Arteta and Emery seem to love him more than Wenger even.

    All three massively praise his leadership and influence.
     
  17. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant

    Puts his signing in a different context

    I'd rather have a young player taking his wages and making the mistakes to learn next year but oh well
     
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  18. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Thread Merchant

    Little wonder Emery was sacked and Wenger was also sacked too. They both placed too much trust in Xhaka
     
  19. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    But that Xhaka was in a team that should’ve got top 4 last season and reached the EL final? This season fell apart because we had a bad summer in the transfer window, that’s not the fault of Xhaka
     
  20. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Thread Merchant

    Xhaka is trash. The reason he's still here is because of our terrible transfer. A well run club would have upgraded on him years ago.

    Quick question: Why do we hold on to bums for so long.

    It's quite peculiar to Arsenal
     

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