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EPL: Arsenal v West Ham - 9/8/15, 13:30 - SS1

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by Proof, Aug 3, 2015.

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  1. WurzlSepp

    WurzlSepp Has No Chill

    Can't hear that anymore. Every game is very important, there are no less important games in a league competition
     
  2. Nyctophobia

    Nyctophobia Well-Known Member

    Cech had all his weight on his left leg for some reason, I guess he expected it to go the other way or didn't expect a shot at all, but when it came he couldn't re-adjust quick enough save it, to be honest it was poor defending from the team not pressing Zarate and Per right there should have tried to get in front of the shot instead going for a casual stroll.
     
  3. Taylor Gang Gunners

    Taylor Gang Gunners Shame is a dish best served cold Trusted

    There's loads of things wrong but Ox does have to share some of the blame. He's been guilty of losing possession in vital areas once or twice now. He's an outstanding young player but he needs fine tuning.
     
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  4. RandyMarsh

    RandyMarsh Established Member

    Not sure i completely agree with that. The game after a loss (especially first game of the season) is more important than for e.g. the game after your 4th successive win in the middle of the season.

    Every game is important but i do believe some matter more than others, depending on the situation you are in at the time.
     
  5. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    All the game are important but we will lose some games that for sure. but we just cant lose against midtable side at home is unforgivable.
     
  6. Hunta

    Hunta Shivering Right Now Trusted

    Haven't even seen a reply of their second goal, turned over when I saw Cech crawling along trying to stop it.
     
  7. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Vinai Venkatesham Stan

    It looks awful, like he didn't even try, but Souness is saying he was wrong footed.
     
  8. Batman

    Batman Bruce Wayne

    Which was completely mental. You don't take the one player who looks like doing anything for you on the day going forward and put him in a completely foreign role at right back. Giroud had done nothing to that point that justified him remaining on the pitch. He wasn't winning anything in the air, wasn't holding up play and gave it away virtually every time he got the ball. Let Theo play up front with Ox and Alexis flanking him and see if Özil and Cazorla couldn't pick out a run or 2. He should have taken off Ramsey and Giroud, not Coq and Debuchy. He made a real hash of what was already an awful mess. It was like watching the Monaco match again except with even worse goalkeeping and even less inspiring general play. There's no excuse from the players perspective or the managers for what transpired today.
     
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  9. chessygoal

    chessygoal Well-Known Member

    I meant stronger than last season... We really tend to underestimate every teams on this forum. Without a new Striker, I don't see how we can be considered stronger than the rest of our competitors for a top 4 spot.
    I truly believe that we can challenge for the title, but we'll need to be lucky and quickly put that loss behind us.
     
  10. kofigunner

    kofigunner Well-Known Member Trusted

    We saw the pre-Sanchez team today. Not enough hunger, not enough fight. Lots of technique, pretty one twos and layoffs but not quite enough of the intangibles. Yes, a better striker would be great, Bellerin's attacking would have been nice, etc, but whilst the first goal was comical in our setup, the second was criminal because of our lack of effort. This is why I like the premiership above all other leagues. You don't bring it, you don't win it, no matter how gifted your players are. Put them all in a room and let Sanchez at them!
     
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  11. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Vinai Venkatesham Stan

    Watching MOTD, that first goal was soo poor by Cech. Dammit.
     
  12. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Vinai Venkatesham Stan

    Giroud has been scuffing a huge amount of shots recently as well.
     
  13. WurzlSepp

    WurzlSepp Has No Chill

    Imo you are spot on. We lack real fighters, aggressive ones.
    I just have to think about Van Bommel now, imagine him in our team today, he would have kicked everyones ass.
     
  14. onetowatch

    onetowatch Well-Known Member

    Only just watched the match having avoided the result manically all day.

    Talk about killing your hopes in one sweep. At least we didn't have to wait til Feb/March to find out what we all know deep down, that this team and manager are a bunch of bottlers and will not be winning the PL or CL.

    How ****ing deflating.
     
  15. Proof

    Proof Well-Known Member Trusted

    I'm giving all our players a pass for this performance. It would be unfair to single someone out because all of them were ****ing awful.

    At one point we had Ramsey, Özil, Cazorla, Chamberlain, Giroud, Walcott and Alexis on the pitch and we were unable to score a damn goal at home against West Ham! All Wenger's attacking weapons looked depressed and disjointed. The lack of urgency we displayed at the 2nd goal was horrific.

    Then you have one of the best GKs in the world in Petr Cech and he makes an error which leads to a West Ham's 1st goal.

    Mertesacker and Koscielny looked like this was the first time the played together. Debuchy and Monreal were ineffectual.
     
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  16. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford

    Not gonna lie, I've been worried about Ramsey for a while now. When he does his job he's a top CM but he's been going for glory - at our expense - for a while now.

    I was worried when I only saw one natural winger in our line up. It's usually 50/50 when that happens...scrape a win or lose toothlessly.

    Can't draw conclusions off of one game but what if Coq drops down a level? Unreal decision from Wenger not to sign a DM.

    Apparently Cech's error in judging when to rush off his line is actually his one weakness. Make of that what you will..
     
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  17. qwerty99

    qwerty99 Active Member

    That sounds more like Russia.
     
  18. gstew

    gstew Member Trusted

    There is no crisis. Gutted by the loss, but it might have done us some good.

    I am really looking forward to see how we play next week. A reminder that title winners bring intensity every game was probably required considering what we saw today. Not seeing what happens behind closed doors, none of us can really know if the problem was Wenger not motivating the players/squad or the players/squad taking our dominance for granted. My belief is that it was more the latter than the former. There was so much feel-good among players, coaches, fans that maybe it took way that edge that is the difference between preseason and the season.

    Sanchez looked awful and he was still very dangerous. What I really liked was Wenger's willingness to bring on attackers so early in the game. His usual formula would have really ticked me off.

    For those who believe all is lost, I think you will have a big surprise coming. In the end, every point is crucial, but IMHO we will only have a single rival this season. So after round one it is Chelseas 1 and Arsenal 0. On to round two.
     
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  19. RUS arsenal

    RUS arsenal Well-Known Member

    Can't ban something which was never allowed in the first place...;)
     
  20. pigge

    pigge Wishes Wrestling Fans Liked Him

    Liked that mesut fighted during the game today, ran the pitch back to harass the runner, and screamed at the team. Feels like his kind of angry shouts at the team doesn't inspire though. Doesn't have that capitan aura.
     
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