Loss Premier League: Newcastle 1 - 0 Arsenal | Saturday 4th November | KO: 17:30 GMT | Sky Sports

Prediction

Newcastle 0-1 Arsenal

 

[Riou]

Goldbriiiiidge

Goldbridge is like one of the only fan of another club that seems to like Arteta, kinda funny that

 

[lomekian]

Are we really not going to get an apology from PGMOL this time? It is more obvious than the previous ones.

Sky Sports set the agenda, and they are on a Saudi wankfest

 

[blaze_of_glory]

Arsenal support Mikel reaction and telling PGMOL to improve the standard of the refereeing in this league and they tired of apologise

Decent statement imo, but doesn't quite go far enough. Should be saying we are now at war with PGMOL. We will find them in their homes, they will never have another moment of peace.

 

[AberGooner]

Based on the game you saw - was there a deserved winner?

No. Very poor game all in all.

 

[lomekian]

Once the on pitch officials had given the Newcastle goal, I'm not sure what VAR could have done to overturn it though. There were no pictures they could show the ref to conclusively say their decisions were wrong, mainly due to the wrong camera angles.

Multiple angle footage of a two handed push downwards on the back of Gabriel's neck says you are wrong

 

[blaze_of_glory]

Goldbridge is like one of the only fan of another club that seems to like Arteta, kinda funny that

He's one of the best pundits around imo. And the fact he reverts back to pure bias once Man U are involved just makes it better lol.

 

[<<reed>>]

Arsenal support Mikel reaction and telling PGMOL to improve the standard of the refereeing in this league and they tired of apologise

PGMOL answer:

 

[Heavy Duty Rom]

Havertz foul wasn't a red. A yellow was totally fine for the fact that he fought him a bit with his trailing leg. That VAR decision was actually correct.

I thought this until i saw the video in slow mo. His leading foot does clip burn on the shin, making it a dangerous tackle.

 

[CaseUteinberger]

That Havertz foul is a red all day long. If it was the other way around, AM would be in meltdown.

No, it isn't and no, A-M would not have a meltdown.

 

[blaze_of_glory]

No. Very poor game all in all.

Agreed, this was a draw. First league game all season where we weren't clearly deserved winners.

 

[Lady_Gooner]

My energy for refereeing decisions is minimal cos every clubs fans think they are against them in some capacity..
As long as football is a game of opinions (because most rules can never be factual), this is always going to happen. Plus human error is always going to exist.
I think that statement is a bit over the top based on the decision in question I’m ngl
I’m not trying to be that annoying unbiased try hard fan either..

 

[Synical]

Ya unfortunately this will backfire big time. Carragher Neville etc are already swinging at us for this statement.

Can see us getting even less protection in games like this etc. I agree with the statement, but think it was a bit naive to put it out.

We are not Liverpool and will get slaughtered for things like this.

Carragher is a hypocrite

 

[Synical]

Ya unfortunately this will backfire big time. Carragher Neville etc are already swinging at us for this statement.

Can see us getting even less protection in games like this etc. I agree with the statement, but think it was a bit naive to put it out.

We are not Liverpool and will get slaughtered for things like this.

A bit of a pathetic and defeatist attitude. If nobody ever tried to take a stand how will things change?

 

[dashsnow17]

Sorry I don’t get what VAR error there was. I didn’t see any camera angle conclusively showing the ball out of play, the foul is a subjective decision not black and white, and the offside tbh I don’t even understand that rule and I’m pretty sure most spectators don’t either.

 

[CaseUteinberger]

He's one of the best pundits around imo. And the fact he reverts back to pure bias once Man U are involved just makes it better lol.

He is a ManU supporter. Would be disappointed if he was not bias when they play. It comes across as honest and open.

 

[Riou]

@Riou Make the Sevilla thread will you, Ox has 2 wins in 5. He needs a breather.

Spoiler: And look who we play next, ffs...

 

[Riou]

@Riou Make the Sevilla thread will you, Ox has 2 wins in 5. He needs a breather.

Spoiler: And look who we play next, ffs...

 

[Ljonin]

A bit of a pathetic and defeatist attitude. If nobody ever tried to take a stand how will things change?

Don’t know how old you are, but sometimes it can be wise to take a pragmatic approach

 

[lomekian]

Sorry I don’t get what VAR error there was. I didn’t see any camera angle conclusively showing the ball out of play, the foul is a subjective decision not black and white, and the offside tbh I don’t even understand that rule and I’m pretty sure most spectators don’t either.

Don't know if ball was in or out, but clear 2 handed push on Gabriel's neck, handball by Wilson AND offside on Gordon (unless the ref deems the touch off Gabriel's arse after he'd been pushed over, and it bounced of Wilson's arm and chest is deliberate, which seems a stretch). You not understanding the law doesn't make it not the law.

Also more broadly re the statement, there is the failure to send off Bruno for a textbook example of violent conduct (and 4 or 5 other bookable offenses), the refusal to look at two possible penalty fouls on Nketiah, the second of which looked pretty nailed on despite Sky refusing to show a replay (the internet can show replays tho'), and a myriad of other poor decisions.

But Atwell is well known for ****ting himself in front of a noisy crowd, and for having no consistency within games, and the VAR bloke is not only a Saudi freelance boy, but is also a **** awful ref who should be nowhere near this level.

But is all good.

 

[2Smokeyy]

My energy for referring decisions is minimal cos every clubs fans think they are against them in some capacity..
As long as football is a game of opinions (because most rules can never be factual), this is always going to happen. Plus human error is always going to exist.
I think that statement is a bit over the top based on the decision in question I’m ngl
I’m not trying to be that annoying unbiased try hard fan either..

Likewise I was more disappointed about the way we played than the decision itself. I’ve come to terms with the misuse of VAR and officiating as it’s always going to happen but what frustrated me more both on Wednesday night and yesterday evening was the lack of cutting edge we’ve had this season. At no point was I convinced we would score.

It’s all good having the ball and playing it sideways which a few in our midfield are masters at doing but if you can barely create any clear cut chances and have 1 shot on target in the game then you have to start looking internally at the issues. In about half of our games this season we’ve been having about 2 to 3 shots on target when we haven’t been playing fodder.